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Marietta school security

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January 8, 2013

Bulletproof glass, holding areas, non-lethal weapons and arming security guards and teachers with guns were among the ideas for improving school security discussed at Monday’s Marietta City Board of......

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Harleyrider

Jan-08-13 8:34 AM

Pepper spray does not always work. Security gaurds were at Columbine. The key here is to don't mchools soft targets. Let the teachers carry and take down those stupid gun free zone signs.

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Harleyrider

Jan-08-13 8:34 AM

Pepper spray does not always work. Security gaurds were at Columbine. The key here is to don't mchools soft targets. Let the teachers carry and take down those stupid gun free zone signs.

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irisheyes

Jan-08-13 9:01 AM

Thats ridiculous harley, no teacher wants to carry a gun, nor should they! Thats the last thing u would want in schools, exited armed teachers bumbling around with a loaded weapon, firing thru walls and creating crossfire within a school, only a complete fool would advocate such a thing! A separate barrier around the building with guards with overwelming firepower is whats needed, just fund it! We have funded stupid wars, now protect the children!

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Tessie

Jan-08-13 9:16 AM

We need to address the problem, not the effects of the problem, if we're to have any impact.

One problem is unstable people who cannot or will not get the mental health treatment they need to live in society.

The second problem is access to guns and other weapons by unstable people.

You can spend millions of dollars arming teachers, building moats, and all the other nonsense or we as a nation can address the real problems.

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Dorthey

Jan-08-13 9:25 AM

How about starting with the "I" in ALICE - information. The PA system was out at MHS for how long? And is it fully functional?

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irisheyes

Jan-08-13 10:09 AM

Mental health issues r part of the problem tessie, that will only take u so far, u still need to secure the children and prevent undesrables frm enter the school itself and no one mentioned a moat but u!

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fanoftigers

Jan-08-13 10:10 AM

PA system at high school out all year. Progress Book and its successor, where parents and students can check grades and assignments online, hasn't worked for the whole year. Glad they are having this discussion, but hard to have faith the board can implement security measures when they can't fix the simple things on a daily basis.

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arearesident

Jan-08-13 10:41 AM

It makes more sense to provide an armed guard (who is well trained) in every school building everyday students are present. Arming teachers across the board is not a wise move. If you have a rare case where a teacher is well trained and doubles as a cop, ok. But in general teachers are not, and shouldn't need to be, trained law enforcement officers.

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Harleyrider

Jan-08-13 11:15 AM

irisheyes, are you really that uninformed? There are teachers in Utah and texas that do carry guns. And who made you the spokesman for all teachers? Did you ask them about it? You are once again going on while half cocked with no information.

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Harleyrider

Jan-08-13 11:17 AM

arearesident, Columbine had an armed gaurd. Plus you have added cost. In case you missed it, we already are pretty muched tapped out financially. Taking down the signs and allowing teachers to conceal carry costs nothing.

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Harleyrider

Jan-08-13 11:28 AM

For those that don't think teachers should carry, think about this. You trust the shapping of their young minds to these people, but you would not trust them with a gun?

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bobber21

Jan-08-13 11:35 AM

Teachers have enough concerns and responsibilities in these situations without expecting them to "take down the shooter" too! HR: you asked irisheyes if they had asked teachers how they felt about carrying guns in schools while stating he/she is uninformed and going off "half cocked". I think we would all be interested in the results of the research you have done on same subject. Who did you interview? Was it a local or national survey?

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Harleyrider

Jan-08-13 11:40 AM

bobber21, it is a fact that there are teachers who do carry in schools. It is also a fact that some teachers would be more than happy to carry in there school. Nobody is suggesting they have to carry, just let them have the option. If I were a teacher I would gladly confront the shooter on my terms rather than cower and wait to be the next victim.

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Harleyrider

Jan-08-13 11:42 AM

and bobber21, it is called a search engine. You plug in the topic and then you can read different articles on the subject you type in. I know it is different than the spoon fed crap you are used to, but you really should give it a try, it may just open that closed mind of yours.

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bobber21

Jan-08-13 12:03 PM

I am quite capable of doing a search on any topic, but no amount of internet research will tell me that there are local teachers that are gun carriers who are willing to be the designated person with that added resposibilty. The only way we'd know that is to take a survey of local eductors. Afterall, this artice is dealing with MARIETTA school security. HR: your constant berating/belitting posts and opinions of those that do not agree with you gets old. Can't you disagree with some amount of respect?

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armybrat

Jan-08-13 12:56 PM

I would rather have my child in a classroom with a teacher trained and allowed to carry a weapon, than a teacher who would panic and/or be unable to protect my child.

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arearesident

Jan-08-13 12:57 PM

You raise many valid points, and I don't necessarily disagree. But, just because a teacher/staff member has a permit and is willing to carry, doesn't mean that they should be encouraged to or allowed to do so.

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Harleyrider

Jan-08-13 1:22 PM

bobber21, I am quite capable of disagreeing with respect when that person deserves it. I have little respect for someone that isn't even capable of following the thread. Asknot,(hardly a bastian of conservatism) stated he knew teachers that had concealed carry and wanted to do it at school.

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irisheyes

Jan-08-13 1:38 PM

The point that we should try to achieve is to keep guns away from schools, and undesirables out. Simple, harley, even u may be able to understand. A barrier, fence outside of the buildings, patroled by heavily armed guards. Point, guns OUTSIDE the schools!

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Harleyrider

Jan-08-13 1:42 PM

irisheyes, maybe we should just ban mass murder in schools. Oh wait.....

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Harleyrider

Jan-08-13 3:31 PM

asknot, I do not object to a little more testing for a teacher to carry in the schools. We agree on this.

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Roscoe

Jan-08-13 5:35 PM

Hundreds of teachers in Ohio & Texas are signing up for concealed carry classes, provided to them free of charge. There are plenty of people, teachers & other school staff included, who would be willing to step up & provide this extra layer if those who implemented this foolish notion of "gun free" zones got out of the way.

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ProdigalSon

Jan-08-13 6:52 PM

Yes, there was an armed security guard at Columbine. He was in his car having lunch at the time. When the two shot at him, he ducked and never followed them into the building. It took the police 45 minutes to enter the building, all the time hearing shots being fired.

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exofDevola

Jan-08-13 7:54 PM

I realize that this is a late post but just saw Ms Sawyers interview with Gabby Gifford and husband Mark Kelly on ABC news- One question asked was if they agreed with the NRA slogan "A bad guy with a gun is only stopped with a good guy with a gun."(both have called for new gun laws in the wake of the Sandy point massacre ) Mr Kelly remarked that there was in Aurora Colorado parking lot&this good guy with a gun and nearly shot the officer who was arresting the shooter James Holmes. It was dark-he could not see well ,Holmes was also in an all black swat type outfit. I would say to all of you who promote guns, this type thing is very possible /just because one may know how to shoot a gun, hunt for sport and target practice, they also (unless current ex law enforcement or ex military )are not trained as police or military are in emergency situations.That training is usually not offered to the general public.The recent shooting at had a shooting the gun show happened just by

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exofDevola

Jan-08-13 7:56 PM

unloading his own gun ,which he should have been well aware on how to do.

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