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Green light for intersection job

February 20, 2013

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Stac1209

Mar-16-13 11:53 AM

I think this is a complete waste of money. If they would adjust the timing of the lights back to what they were about 6 months ago, as it is obvious that they increased the time that you sit there, it would be fine. As I work in the city, I believe this could effect more than just Norwood residents because I live outside the city, but frequently use the Seventh and Greene Street left turn. This could also affect businesses throughout the area. I personally try to avoid Pike Street and Acme.

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Lester

Feb-21-13 12:36 PM

All of their phone numbers are listed in the editorial section of the weekend newspaper. They can also be found on the Board of Elections website under the Elected Officials tab. You can also email any or all of them at councilman's name @ mariettaoh . net.

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Lester

Feb-21-13 7:50 AM

OK, our Council members pretty much do whatever they want to do, but they also tend to do whatever is in their own self-interest. So, show them that voting NO during tonight's REAL VOTE at the regular Council meeting is in their (and their constituents') best interest! Burn up their phone lines today telling them you don't want this mess! If this vote takes place tonight without you having voiced your opinion to the people who represent you, then you need not even have an opinion!

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hockeypuck

Feb-21-13 6:51 AM

I now believe that most of the people who claim there is congestion at the intersection have never traveled to a major metropolitan area.

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Thrifty

Feb-21-13 2:19 AM

Can someone explain what REALLY happened with this intersection? Since nothing is wrong with it, did someone important have an accident, and since they couldn't possibly accept blame, this blossomed into a "blame the road" type of scenario? All this to deflect blame away from somebody important? Is there some other basis for this nonsense? There MUST BE more to this than what we're reading? I wish we knew the real story here....perhaps old police reports would show what's really going on were someone inclined to research.

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MT1234

Feb-20-13 10:36 PM

This one will probably be started around the same time that the state is relocating Route 26 at Acme and Greene, and they start the work on Acme and Pike. It will be quicker to reach Marietta via I-77 and Parkersburg than it will be to use Route 7.

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Jeffersonian

Feb-20-13 7:28 PM

How can something that is going to so adversely affect such a large amount of people be decided by such a small minority? Oh wait...that's government.

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MT1234

Feb-20-13 7:24 PM

It does no good to voice an opinion to any government entity. They are going to do what they think is best for everyone regardless of consequences, then blame someone else.

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voiceofreason1

Feb-20-13 5:24 PM

mrhomer--don't bother trying to avoid this intersection. I go that way each & every day and watch countless cars zoom through the Speedway parking lot to not wait on the light.

Since I never, ever see the police stopping any one of them, this MUST be a legal way for people to navigate the intersection. Just use the Speedway access onto Greene Street.

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mrhomer

Feb-20-13 1:17 PM

I travel that way a lot and always turn left onto Greene so my plan is to avoid this whole crappy mess by going Colegate to Greene or south side to Acme and not frequent present or future businesses involved in that area...hope for their sake not everyone feels that way.

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Helper

Feb-20-13 1:16 PM

Please read today’s article on Williamstown police pay. They need to keep their police rates competitive. But, even so, Councilman Seufer directs that the full effects on the city’s budget must be considered: a cautious, concerned, clear-headed approach to a vital issue. Now float yourself back across the river. Despite (1) heavy criticism from taxpayers, (2) demonstrated injury to Norwood residents, (3) little if any benefit to be gained from the new intersection, and (4) a tight budget which restrains city alley repair to only one per year, Marietta council now incurs an additional expense of $389,637 in order to avoid getting a “black eye” (with ODOT). Wouldn’t it be much better use of taxpayer funds to upgrade an alley or two rather than to throw nearly $400,000 toward fixing something that’s not broke?

Compare the two councils -- today one was fiscally responsible, the other was fiscally irresponsible.

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Tessie

Feb-20-13 12:28 PM

Pike Street is the beginning of Marietta's business corridor and should remain as such. Greene Street at Pike and Seventh is the residential beginning of Norwood. It's non-nonsensical to send Norwood residents out onto Pike Street where they will cause more congestion in an already congested intersection.

The Administration, not the Council, has taken a small cluster and turned it into a huge CLUSTER. They are using scare tactics to try to make people believe ODOT monies will not be offered to the city in the future if this project isn't a go. They say approve this now and we can "tweck" it later. Tweck??? Are you kidding me? All "tweaks" need to be worked out before any further voting occurs. The only "tweaks" are the ones in the engineers, and Mayor's and Hupp's offices.

Why didn't the city try a dry run of no left onto Greene from Seventh instead of using computer simulation? Why not block the Greene entrance/exit from Speedway temporarily

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Crandall

Feb-20-13 12:20 PM

Did you all just get the feeling that council gave us the back of their hands? This is beyond ignorant. Quite frankly it borders on stupidity. The last 'upgrade' was done by 'experts' and was suppose to take care of the traffic issues. Obviously there are a few issues still so hey! let's have the 'experts' do it again!! Those 'experts' in Columbus don't drive here, don't live here and don't care about logical solutions. Yeah, paid for by 'free money grants' but those come with those who haven't a clue and too many strings attached. Why is Council listening to out of towners and not their own citizens?

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BigNapper

Feb-20-13 12:10 PM

Go Bucks you are right on after all it wasn't the citizens who put all the sewer man covers in the middle of the road on Rt. 7 where traffic had to hit them it was engineers this road was dug up why didn't they put these man made pot holes outside the curbs?? Needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few is ok on Star Treck but not here cause no one is needing this waste of money done here and we don't need city council chaseing off potential busnesses.....

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pioneernative

Feb-20-13 12:09 PM

Huge mistake getting rid of that left turn onto Greene St. Besides the headache it will cause us Norwood residents, it will basically guarantee the Movie Gallery property will sit there empty. Not a good idea.

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howcanthisbe

Feb-20-13 11:56 AM

Engineers planned this intersection originnaly.Why would you trust them now,if the current design is wrong?

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GettaGottaGood

Feb-20-13 10:56 AM

This is going to be a total mess and a total waste of money. I drive this daily and thanks for adding 10 extra minutes to my day. It's fine the way it is.

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Lester

Feb-20-13 10:54 AM

So, Brothers supports this impending debacle? Thinks this minor inconvenience to a few people is no big deal. Doesn't sound to me like he's got the makings of a very good Mayor!

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MakinMulah

Feb-20-13 10:34 AM

$3.2 million... I mean there are all types of speed bumps, ON-ROAD walk signs, Flashing lights, Signs, Traffic Lights, FLASHERS!

If you are still getting it by cars, It's your own dumb fault. I'm just being real.

Nest month the city will raise a tax saying they are $3.2 million short on Misc items.

This is the dumbest area I've ever lived in.

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GOBUCKS

Feb-20-13 10:16 AM

Brothers said, The engineers have looked at this and said this was the best solution! Do you know any engineers with common sense?

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fanoftigers

Feb-20-13 9:32 AM

Rok there is no doubt that it is currently a poorly designed intersection. When it was done this way the same things were said by ODOT engineers then that they are saying now...smoother traffic flow, less accidents, pedestrian safety, etc.

As a daily driver of this intersection I can tell you that timing the lights, closing the middle school cut through road by Speedway, or even allowing access to Speedway by Green Street only would all have more of an impact than this waste of money. This will put more traffic onto Pike Street, which is already a mess, and make Speedway and other small roads by Captain D's and Phillips School much busier.

What's worse, council members seem indifferent in their 'people will find a safe way home' or nobodys jumping up and down about it' from last week. This is a good example of governing by what is in your wallet (the potential of grant dollars)rather than by using brains for simple cost effective solutions.

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roksmith

Feb-20-13 9:01 AM

Ahh. I'm ok with it. That's probably the most congested intersection in the city most days. Always thought having 2 traffic lights a hundred feet or so apart was dumb. Should never have designed the intersection that way to begin with. I looked at the presentation online about the project and think it will save considerable time for most folks that travel thru that intersection on a daily basis.

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UncleGrunt

Feb-20-13 8:57 AM

Do you think The Times could at least publish a drawing or illustration of what we're talking about here? Jeez, a picture is worth a thousand words. Give us the plan and let us see it. At the very least, tell us where it is. Get with the times, Times.

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Lester

Feb-20-13 8:07 AM

Dimmer Abicht sees job$$$ for his union cronies -- what the rest of them were thinking, or not thinking, can't be surmised. Regardless, KICK THEM OUT! If there ever was a reason to do so, THIS is it!

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voiceofreason1

Feb-20-13 7:51 AM

A debacle in the making.

I cannot believe coouncil will not even make an effort to change light timing, increase enforcement of the traffic laws, etc. before altering this intersection on such a large scale.

Oh---wait--"free money"! That's why they are doing it. Well, that money ain't free and the resulting intersection will be a disaster.

Congratulations, council. Take a bow.

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