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23 days ago.
by Ohwiseone
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What happened to the "Union Influence in Politics" topic?

Even though I initiated it as the debut topic in the Times forums, I'm happy to realize it has been deleted. It died an ugly death long ago, and should have been executed long before it was. I'm curious though... Why? I am unaware of the travesty that occurred that was sufficiently heinous to warrant it's deletion... As compared to the tripe on ALL the other threads that is evident on a daily basis.

 
 

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Ohwiseone

I might say the same for you abby ! Try turning Rush and Faux off and remove your blinders to the real world ! Selling workers down the road to increase the profit margine is all to much of the norm ! And those business minions are too quick to try the latest fad for fear they wiont look innovative ! And sorry but I do believe that greed is the thing thats delivering our country to the trash heap !

Posted 25 days ago.

absolem

OWO...whos said anything about being out of the working climate? i never claimed that. it doesn't take a Ray Charles to see that innovation and mechanization has changed many of the labor intentive processes, which will result in fewer workers being required. outsourcing and a changing global platform for conducting business also affects the labor markets not only here but around the world. yes...we all love our cheaply made baubles and we all buy them. even the wealthy...perhaps not the super-wealthy who have a veritable printing press delivering cash to them by the minute need to concern themselves with mundane travalities like a products cost. your singular corporate worldview answer of "GREED" is not end-all or catch-all for the ill's of our nations economic and labor woes. read up a bit on the subject....start by skipping "The Daily Kos" and your ever-present Democratic Newsletter or Republican hit list as i call it.

Posted 25 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Oh so now you two are the experts on how working climate has changed ! And you all have been out of the "working climate " for how long ? The facts are because of how business is conducted , the greed factor has increased and now workers need to be protected even more !Just because you say things are better does'nt make it so ! It may have changed but not for the benefit of the workers !Of one thing I'm sure , working people will only take so much and when they tire of being abused the tide will swing in favor of unions and as usual you republinutz will be there to try to keep unions from helping people !

Posted 25 days ago.

absolem

*creating the consumer class.

Posted 25 days ago.

absolem

Stillhere...the problem our friend OWO has is that they are so conditioned that they have failed to see the working climate change. there are so many well-trained and educated folks that are competing for jobs that having the organized skilled trademen and tradeswomen are not as in demand anymore. as products, services and goods have changed, the requirements of such have changed. like the Dinosaurs, time is leaving many behind. it is sad that many fines craftspeople are left to home workshops and niche markets in which to ply their trade. our leadership has done a fine job in reating the consumer class....the problem was that it seems to be at the cost of the production class. there are millions of jobs that would come available should those here illegally would leave. perhaps a triple-tax on them to support those whom they displace would be a start. but then again...who said an American would take their vacated job? the security net has become a security nest instead for many.

Posted 25 days ago.

Stillhere

Of course this reasoned post will be met with hostility, name calling and repetitive non sense, the hallmarks of trollish behavior

Posted 26 days ago.

Stillhere

The thug tactics of the Baldwin and Pinkerton agents have been adopted by the Unions and for people like our dear friend Munster, that's just ok

Posted 26 days ago.

Stillhere

Absolem you are correct. I take nothing away from the early labor movement in the coal fields for instance. Their hard work and sacrifices have been enshrined in LAW and I am grateful for that. HOWEVER, they have turned into little more than another corrupt corporation that has a hard left political stance. Funneling money from working people to purchase power for themselves is the source of my contempt for the current iteration of UNIONS

Posted 26 days ago.

absolem

What's scary is you still believe that. Today is not the same as wehn Unions started or haven't you noticed. as i have stated before, moderanization as well as innovation along with becoming more of a global marketplace for buying, selling and producing have long since contributed to the lack of opportunities for unions to offer as much bang for the buck in many instances. the federal government and the success of your predecessors were instrumental in your decline as well. you should look at the whole picture...not just those you have been conditioned to demonize.

Posted 26 days ago.

Ohwiseone

What you fail to take into account is the reason we have unions ! Yes there is a lack of fairness but some took their enterprise a little too far and used their power to abuse people ! What's scarey is You republinutz want to take us back to the bad ole days of the company store and 100 hour work weeks, etc !

Posted 26 days ago.

absolem

I am so confused...please 'splain.

Posted 26 days ago.

moderation

I am talking about collective bargaining,..... whachu talkn bout?

Posted 26 days ago.

Stillhere

I doubt you actually have one, but i make MY point and the fact that you agree is a coincidence. The blessings will never be divided evenly in a fair and just system as some deaerve more and some deserve nothing

Posted 26 days ago.

moderation

You make my point

Posted 26 days ago.

Stillhere

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.

Winston Churchill

Posted 26 days ago.

moderation

Collective bargaining is as much of a right as is the right to 'practice' capitalism.

Posted 26 days ago.

absolem

never forget...people died and sacrficed to create the enterprises for which you wish to parasite off of.

Posted 26 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Never forget, people DIED for the eight hour workday. -- Rebecca Gordon

Posted 26 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Yeah, well we will see if that comes back to haunt ole possum face !

Posted 26 days ago.

Stillhere

So let me be clear, Collective bargaining isn't a right, it is an expensive entitlement. Once and for all, we are giving the taxpayers a voice in this debate. We put the power back in the hands of the people.

Scott Walker

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Posted 27 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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