Nascar - you bring up an interesting point. I don't know that football game loss inspired riots have ever been evaluated for ethnic compositional make up. I'd have my doubts that they are restricted to "whites only" participation. I tend to class them all as being idiots.
NasCarNut: they normally burn up couches not Drug Stores.
Oh but these people are special , they are all people who are receiving all that free stuff and are on relief ! You know , Romney's 47% !(sarcasm)
. Hmmm.The French Revolution is a good example of civil unrest,without a racial twist.
I've seen white people tear up property b/c they lost a football game...now if that's not a good reason I don't know what is...
FYI moderation - h ttp://public.gettysburg.e du/~tshannon/hist106web/site18/Conditions%20of%20Indentured%20Servants2.htm
Also, while I'm not saying that Indentured Servitude was the equivalent of Slavery in degree of oppression, it did have very detrimental physical and social connotations.
I don't see a bunch of white people tearing up property because of the misfortune incurred by their ancestors 150+ years ago. Before you respond with the sidebar argument that blacks are owed something for their experiences prior to the Civil Rights Movement, how do you explain that there exists a segment that 'claim to believe' they are due reparations for what occurred before the Emancipation Proclamation?
moderation - if you don't like my fact-based analogy, let me throw one your way based upon personal observation and hypothesis.
I would have like to have had Freddie Gray's relatives show up at that scene and announce that, in honor of Mr. Gray's memory, they were requesting that the looting and arson stop.
I believe we all know how wasted that effort would have been.
BTW moderation - You may want to brush up on the oppressive conditions experienced by some Indentured Servants, some of whom were brought this way to pay off debts incurred by their families in Europe.
Ironically, that batch of German settlers, of which my ancestor was one, turned out to be some of our earliest and most vocal abolitionists.
"Founding of Pennsylvania Abolition Society" 1775
h ttp://w ww.p bs.o rg/wgbh/aia/part3/3p249.html
moderation.....nothing personal intended toward you or anyone else. just rattling the chain.
As Walt said in "Grand Torino" about "bro" : "Shut up, pu$ $y. What is all this "bro" sh!t, anyway? Want to be Super Spade or something? These guys don't want to be your bro, and I don't blame 'em."
I know that, bro. That wasn't my point.
They were sold by their own kind into bondage MOD, you know that right?
That is quite a different experience than that which was forced upon the ancestors of the majority of the black population in America today
MOD, who perpetuated that life as a slave? Don't tell me you believe the Alex Haley version of White Europeans throwing nets over Kunta Kintea?
What a misleading analogy you offer kunec. As an indentured servant, one willingly exchanged their labor/acquired skills for that learning opportunity, and of course, the additional boat ride.There was ,also, a predetermined period of time assigned to this arraignment.That is quite a different experience than that which was forced upon the ancestors of the majority of the black population in America today.Your hypotheses for the motivation to riot and loot is in question, as well, even though I don't support violent demonstrations.
Stillhere - I hope you took it with the ample sarcasm with which I intended it.
An ancestor was of mine was with one of the first groups of Germans to settle around the Philadelphia, PA area approximately 101 years before the establishment of the United States. My understanding is he was brought to our shore as an Indentured Servant. I don't feel any merchant owes me a bottle of whiskey, a new pair of shoes (or six pair) or a set of rims for my ride today because of it.
Point taken and understood
Now Stillhere! If your Great-great-great grandfather was held in slavery, how can you reasonably be expected to "be held to account"? Especially when you live in a country that presently has a political regime running it that reminds you of your legitimate expected exemption at every opportunity.
NO justice/ new shoes.
kunnects I agree, I am NOT giving the rioting thugs a pass by any means, all I am saying is that those who are granted power should be held to a higher account, not that we ALL shouldn't be held to account.
700 Channel Lane , Marietta, OH 45750 | 740-373-2121