What has been the impact of the march on the nation? Looking back, what criticisms or praise can be gleaned?
I doubt he did look at the civil rights type of problems facing African-Americans being their fault. However, and this is a guess, I feel he would be on the side that would expect the African American community to lift itself up to a higher standard. From my understanding, Dr. King expected the people in the movement to try and keep above reproach. I can't see him being all for the modern "gangsta" lifestyle within the culture.
Mod: I don't think this is what MLK meant when he said "I have a dream".
He said “One hundred years later, the N e g r o is still languishing in the corners of American society and finds himself an exile in his own land” or in their neighborhoods in Chicago. When he made his speech I do not think he thought his own people were the problem.
He said “One hundred years later, the ***** is still languishing in the corners of American society and finds himself an exile in his own land” or in their neighbors in Chicago.
beright-what exactly are you saying when you point out the escorting of children within the hood ?
I see in Chicago that Black Children had to be escorted through Black Neighborhoods on their way to school because authorities were concerned about what Black Gangs would do when these Black children crossed over Black Gangs territory lines. Where are Jesse and the Rev on that one? What would MLK think? 50 year anniversary? Black are more in danger of being harmed by one of their own than by anyone else.
fred, as you get older you may appreciate a good "stop-and-frisk"! most police forces have some pretty nice lookin' lady cops.
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@BeRight- While I doubt any of the speakers at the March would approve in any way to those various issues, those issues simply did not exist in 1963. At least not to the degree we see today.
If you want to see a more modern and usually well respected African-American talking about the topics you raise, reference Bill Cosby 17 May 2004 (***********americanrhetoric****/speeches/billcosbypoundcakespeech.htm)
@oneill- It should be noted though that after Malcolm made the Hajj to Mecca, he did become a little more open to the idea of racial equality. Seeing all the various shades and backgrounds of his fellow Muslims seemed to have an effect on him.
Did any of the speeches at the 50th rally on Washington talk about rappers corrupting the minds of their children, or out of wedlock births, high drop-out rates, black on black crimes, street gangs and kids who thing pants bellow their buttocks is a main stream look?
Kendall. Take the time to go back over and read all of Oneills post. Over the last year or so, and you will see how he blames everything on the "obstructing republicans"... Everything !!! AND he is profiling the Mid Ohio Valley citizens as being a bunch of sub humans because they do not agree with his opinions. Oneill, as I said, you can refrain from twisting my words about so they look and sound like something (Aryian). All I am saying is you are full of about as much hate for the republicans as the KKK is against non whites. That is a fact !!
@thegreek- Keep in mind that Fred didn't say "all" the Right but more in line with the fringe right. I've always looked at the Right(Conservative) as having the duty of preserving that which is good for the nation while the Left(Liberal) is suppose to introduce positive change for the nation. Sadly though, there are aspects of the Right that want to preserve many negative qualities of our nation.
Actually, I guess the purpose for this topic is pretty generalized. I was hoping for various views on such things as if the main goals of the march were met or haven't been met. On views of the speakers (so many people don't realize that there were more than just Dr. King). Where the March went wrong or right. I've read a few stories that claim the worse aspect of the March was that their were no women speakers present and some of the original speakers were told they had to edit their language or not speak at all.
@oneill- Yeah, some people are horrible in their letters. Just this past weekend one person basically spouted off some Fox editorial talking points about Muslims not saying their against what happened on 911 enough. I swear, what do they expect from the millions of Islamic Americans? To go on tv and publically apologize for the actions of some idiots?
@oneil- I was curious to your perspective on "gradualism" within the civil rights movement. Dr. King referenced it during his "I Have a Dream" speech and tried to warn of it happening. Malcolm X (in his Grassroots speech) was a very vocal critic of the March on Washington and its "weakening" due to the inclusion of the six main speakers. Do you think he had a point?
Always always always the rights fault. I call B. S. on that...
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