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2 days ago.
by Ohwiseone
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Obamacare is not "FREE" health care

People have finally realized that the word “free” is nowhere to be found in Obamacare’s “ Affordable Health Care Act”. Coverage under President Barack Obama's health care law won't be cheap. A study released Thursday by the nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation found that government tax credits would lower the sticker price on a benchmark "silver" policy to a little over $190 a month for single people making about $29,000, regardless of their age. For uninsured people who are paying nothing today, this is still a big cost that they're expected to fit into their budgets.

 
 

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luvthesouth

still do. DNA and hereditary factors can not be legislated away so far....i think that in the end affordability may be the dream but false success for many may be the reality. glass half-full overlooks failure. glass half-empty acknowledges failure. acceptance of there is nothing better is not a good enough reason to champion a law that will not work as how it was sold but just maybe as it was intended. forgot to say good morning...you too fred.

Posted 188 days ago.

luvthesouth

asknot, perhaps you may consider applying for the postion of premium collector or healthcare law/tax enforcer. you seem to ignore the fact that if you desire to fix a problem, you must first identify the problem. to sit back and simply stare at the glittering goodies that appeal to you, you should instead fix that which steals its shimmer. those that were not paying before will not pay now. everyone else from taxpayers, the insured, insurance companies, charities and family. sounds a bit like who paid before Obama "fixed" the healthcare system. irresponsible poeple can't be made responsible by law. the lawful are always mistreated by the unlawful. otherwise we would not need laws with penalties but only guidelines and helpful hints in life. the healhcare system was working very well for many years for a heck of alot of people. the choices were there for those to purchase insurance. many chose not too. the choices for healthy living was there but many chose not too...and stil

Posted 188 days ago.

luvthesouth

should "real" waste be eliminated, then i will support that. equal coverage for women is really a misnomer in that all it does is offer free (at others expense rather than recipient) medical care and perks that are gender specific. there is nothing equal in that. since you have me over a barrel with older folks and the donut hole...i have to support that aspect. fair enough? speaking of donuts.....a dozen Krispy Kreme would be banging right now.

Posted 189 days ago.

luvthesouth

fred, you made a mistake...you should have posted "the low-information supporters". it seems that the trivalities that you so easily cast aside seem to be important enough for the President on down to claim their relative importance at the success of the "tax" program. mostly we are all affected by the healthcare(tax) law. no one other than those given certain exemptions and enough tax-credits are immune from the nasties of this healthcare (tax) law. the pre-existing condition requirement does not contain enough safe-guards against undue burden to the insurance companies, federal and state governments as well as every other individual policyholder. the term children is in the law is as misleading as the description and passage of the law itself. why not just call them career students or no-load adults when it comes to covering adults from age 18-26. that is stupid. let them be required to do what every other adult has to do as required by the law. i will say that s

Posted 189 days ago.

thegreek

HAA - Anything else is pure guesswork Bob B says!!!!

They passed a law this gigantic on guess work ???? Good work democrat FOOLS !!!

Posted 190 days ago.

moderation

Whew,whatdif, I bet you typed that holding your breath.How might a citizen influence his best return on a health insurance investment without political representation? Should I just be simply grateful that there is an insurance industry?

Posted 190 days ago.

whatdifferencedoesitmake

Destroying ANY American's satisfactory health care insurance or doctor/patient relationship was and is immoral, Unconstitutional, unfair, biased, an abuse of power, unjust, and deserving of repeal and annulment. We do not play "end justifies the means" games with Citizens in this country. That B.S. about breaking eggs to make a Leninist omelette does not fry here.

Posted 190 days ago.

whatdifferencedoesitmake

Mod.. everyone who paid attention knows that there are marxists in many industries (see GM's union bosses, GE & Solyndra sycophants, etc.) including those who would go to bed with Nancy Pelosi to rape the American public for personal gains. Lobbyists and co-conspirators abound, but that does not excuse them from the blame they earned for collaborating with the Dems and His MajestO in perpetrating this scam on us. The medical industry was not and is not the rightful playground of politicians. REPEAL O-care.

Posted 190 days ago.

moderation

Whatdif- the insurance industry purty much constructed the aca.That would mean they are Marxists', right? Did you have this same opinion of them before the affordable care act?

Posted 190 days ago.

whatdifferencedoesitmake

Sorry, O-feel. Your Community Organizer's attempt to sovietize our medical industry was wrong, immoral, unjust, poorly designed, and poorly executed. All marxist schemes fail. You just thought your current marxist hero was going to be "the one" to make the corruptible power grab work. It did not. It will not. Just another loser central control plot gone bad. You will never learn.

Posted 190 days ago.

whatdifferencedoesitmake

Just ask the victims of it. Satisfactory Policies were cancelled. Previously insured left with no coverage, no access to successful meds and doctors. Companies holding workers to 29 hour work weeks. Companies not hiring entry level workers because of high cost of Government compliance. This is immoral and not "justice" to take money from some Citizens to hand out unearned benefit to some other voter/supporter. Immoral. Unjust. Unfair. Organized Theft!

Posted 190 days ago.

BeRight

I know many who have been forced into new plans and lost their doctors because their doctor was in a different "network"than the new plan covered. If you like your doctor you can keep them ...............sure.

Posted 190 days ago.

BeRight

don't forget Fred that many more Millions than those who have signed up have lost their insurance do to the new law. If you like it you can keep it was pure political lying BS and everyone in the Obama administration was part and parcel to that lie.

Posted 190 days ago.

BeRight

President Barack Obama and his Democrats face the challenge of limiting fallout from Obamacare and drumming up voter enthusiasm in the November congressional elections, problem areas exposed by the loss of a Florida candidate who had led in the polls.

Posted 190 days ago.

luvthesouth

will be immune from the implosion.

Posted 190 days ago.

luvthesouth

fred...good morning. why would i not use the report posted on the H.H.S. website. the A.C.A. does fall under their umbrella. why consult with the child when i can consult with the adult? the numbers while not flattering to your opinion are true and non-bias in nature. the reasons why the target demographic is so low is meaningless, however the lack of participation is. there is one sigular aspect of the law that i agree with. that would be the requirement for personal responsiblity in providing for one's insurance for heathcare. the rub is the implementation. accountability in this era of our history has become almost non-existent. exemptions, tax-credits, defferals, and other such actions that are forthcoming wil remove the teeth of law and its intent. it is purely economics. the only way this thing will ever work is to become a general tax-payer supplimented law/program/entitlement. the flow chart is so clear even Stevie Wonder can see it coming. either way, it is my hope that i wil

Posted 190 days ago.

luvthesouth

asknot...i meant military style in the organization and payscale. the buying power that the government possesses is immense once the kick-backs and political pay-offs are removed. regional medical centers along with private charities and local county or state healthcare facilities could end the lack of healthcare for many. there are many instances that i could cite where reduced and free medical procedures have been performed quite a few folks i know.

Posted 190 days ago.

luvthesouth

medications. ironically that is what they are doing now with the services end. if folks would not mind traveling, i would not mind seeing something akin to regional military medical facilties whereby the doctors, nurses and staff are hired at military wages. with proper oversight and procurement, those already receiving tax-payer assistance and low income that need medical care could possibly receive it at a reasonable rate. the real short answer....JOBS and a willing workers.

Posted 191 days ago.

luvthesouth

the first step to a solution is not creating a bigger problem . the applecart was messed up for the majority in the name of the minority when it came to healthcare. i think from the numbers i have posted that a lrage number of americans will not actually be forced to pony up into the system as it stands. the President was correct in thinking that everyone should be fiscally responsible for their own healthcare needs. unfortunately, you can't get blood from a turnip. how they thought that those that either could not afford insurance much less healthcare could somehow garner some sense of responsibility is beyond me. with each successive deferral and exemption he is chiping away at the bedrock of the law. many folks were taken care of by local medical clinics as well as organizations that offered assisted medical care. the burden on the federal governemnt through the reimbursed medical payments was something that could have been remedied by negotiating for services and prescription medi

Posted 191 days ago.

luvthesouth

fred...thanks for the duh's...back at you. your redirect to the current figures simply reinforce my original post with it's figures. look at whom is making up your 53% increase. my post is not a newsmax repost. you do not give me enough credit fred....my numbers reflect the truth. participation numbers without full pay does not fund the program. the delayed mandates as well as some exemptions further drain the law of it's life-sustaining revenue. the hole will get deeper with more direct and indirect taxpayer funding to make it a success. hammer that square peg in that round hole...it will fit by gosh.

Posted 191 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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