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6 days ago.
by slinky
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Obamacare is not "FREE" health care

People have finally realized that the word “free” is nowhere to be found in Obamacare’s “ Affordable Health Care Act”. Coverage under President Barack Obama's health care law won't be cheap. A study released Thursday by the nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation found that government tax credits would lower the sticker price on a benchmark "silver" policy to a little over $190 a month for single people making about $29,000, regardless of their age. For uninsured people who are paying nothing today, this is still a big cost that they're expected to fit into their budgets.

 
 

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BeRight

Just go my choices for my Medical Plan for next year. Premiums are the same. Deductibles are way up both individual and family. Out of pockets max way up.

So I am getting a heck of a deal if I don't have to use it.

Sounds like I signed up for Obmamacare.

Posted 217 days ago.

absolem

"Come on abby youre smarter than that"...yes i am...thanks. as i said.

Posted 231 days ago.

absolem

OWO...lets stay on point. healthcare...you and i finally agree that something must be done to control the costs and those that pay. if we both vote then we are both part of the problem. as much as you may think that the insurance companies are only aligned with the republicans...you may wish to think again. i had hoped to have a rational and mostly non-partisan conversation with you. if you are going to "republinut" and politicize the problem then i am uninterested and will leave you to your endless mud-slinging. pretty soon you are going to have to wash that wall...you are running out out clean space to dirty-up.

Posted 231 days ago.

absolem

OWO...i am disappointed that you would pigeon-hole the reasons to a singular party. unreal...if you stop and think about who actually pays for the cost of healthcare. break it down between, government reimbursement, insarance companies direct payments, hospital write-off's, and private individuals. once you ascertain the percentages, i think you would agree that all interested parties have a seat at the table. it is easy to smply use the government to push off the costs to anyone you wish by sheer legislation...which seems to be the eternal push and shove of the producer-consumer relationship. look at the big picture and i think you will find many heads in the trough and just as many politicians willing to solve the problem.

Posted 231 days ago.

absolem

what one values an item or service verses at what their ability to pay may be. thus begins the battle to balance each side of the equal sign to achieve a neutral flow in healthcare costs.

Posted 231 days ago.

absolem

"SOMEONE is making a killing and that has to stop !"

interesting aspect to your post. Good morning OWO. i could not agree more...someone is making a killing. getting it to stop will be impossible. as was pointed out...many a good intended program conceived and implemented by the government will be fraught with fraud from all sides. from a report in 2011 of the 5000 for-profit hospitals, they averaged about 10 million in profit per year. which is hardly a killing for the financial liabilities as well as the sheer manpower required to fulfill just the support operation would add soooo much to the overall cost. the governemnt places little value to the services offered by hospitals. in the vast number of patients treated under this program, one can easily see that there would have to be a costt offset somewhere. the money-trail can begin at the hospital but it quickly spider-veins out to affect so many people and industries. value in its purest essence is the battle between wh

Posted 231 days ago.

BeRight

So liars and cheaters were able to sign up?

Well the gov't met their magic number so who cares?

It is only taxpayer money.

Posted 232 days ago.

BeRight

About 423,000 people in the 37 states that use the federal marketplace lost their 2015 coverage by June 30 because they had not provided sufficient documentation of their citizenship or immigration status, according to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. And for about 967,000 households in those states, their premium subsidies — and for some, a separate category of subsidies that helps cover their co-payments and deductibles — were recalculated because of “income inconsistencies.” So for many who lost coverage this spring, the problems began when the marketplace could not verify the annual income they listed on their application, or their citizenship status.

Posted 232 days ago.

absolem

OWO...so as those unsustainable costs continue to rise...whom exactly witl be paying for those increases? the pundits had mathemeticians crunching the numbers on the ACA early on and found that the behemouth program would be destined to crumble under is own weight. Stevie Wonder called it and iunfortunately.....Obama wasn't listening.

Posted 273 days ago.

absolem

pool that includes all enrollees across their small group plans in the state.

Currently these provisions affect businesses that have 50 or fewer workers. But next year the provisions will kick in for businesses that have 51-100 workers. The change in the definition of a small group would differ from the employer mandate, which calls on companies with 50 or more employees to provide health insurance for their workers.

the affordable care act is the gift that keeps right on giving...or taking as you will. the burdens will increase as they rightly should. as the weight becomes too heavy for the electorate, they will have the politicians either find an "assisting" revenue source or simply borrow to cover the shortfalls or even the entire cost. buying votes or simply citizen-inspired and represented theivery.

Posted 274 days ago.

absolem

as reported in motherjones:

The New York Times reports that insurers are asking for significant rate increases for 2016:

Blue Cross and Blue Shield plans — market leaders in many states — are seeking rate increases that average 23 percent in Illinois, 25 percent in North Carolina, 31 percent in Oklahoma, 36 percent in Tennessee and 54 percent in Minnesota....The rate requests, from some of the more popular health plans, suggest that insurance markets are still adjusting to shock waves set off by the Affordable Care Act.

from the washington examiner:

More small businesses will have to adopt Obamacare's insurance changes next year, which business groups say could result in higher premiums.

Obamacare required small-group healthcare markets to cover essential benefits similar to those in the individual market. Those include capping enrollees' out-of-pocket costs and not excluding people due to pre-existing conditions.

Insurers also have to set rates using a single risk

Posted 274 days ago.

BeRight

Source USA Today:

UAW has one of the best if not the best Health Care Plans (pre 2007 workers).

Those at GM have unlimited doctor’s office visits with $25 co-payments, $20 at Ford. Visits to urgent centers or emergency rooms carry co-pays of $50 and $100, respectively. Prescription drug co-pays are $6 for generics, $12 for brand names and $17 for erectile dysfunction drugs.

But, go figure, The UAW objects to paying the Obamacare “Cadillac Tax”.

The Unions were granted a multi-year reprieve exemption from Obamacare to begin with. So where would that Tax Revenue go?

The revenue from that tax will help pay for the subsidized but less-generous plans now covering millions of people who previously were uninsured.

Well they UAW got theirs.

Posted 280 days ago.

NasCarNut

"wealth redistribution"is one of the rights attempts to demonize !

you didn't get the whole sentence, makes a difference...

Posted 330 days ago.

absolem

OWO....what is "wealth distribution" and if it exists, in what form should it take to be fair and equitable?

Posted 330 days ago.

NasCarNut

ok then, healthcare program...smh

Posted 340 days ago.

BeRight

Nas, it is not a "program".

It is insurance.

Posted 340 days ago.

NasCarNut

how much more time, money, and energy will they waste to overturn a program for which they have nothing to replace it with??...

Posted 340 days ago.

NasCarNut

relax folks, they're not giving up yet...third times a charm ;)

Republicans in Congress are moving toward a plan to use a special budgetary process to repeal ObamaCare, after the Supreme Court ruled for a second time to uphold the controversial law.

Posted 340 days ago.

harryanderson

Of course I was being facetious. Politics should have nothing to do with Supreme Court decisions.

But it obviously does. This case follows the pattern of many others. Republican appointees vote the Republican Party line and Democratic appointees vote the Democratic Party line.

In case after case, the courts don’t decide on the basis of right and wrong. They decide on the basis of party affiliation. That makes them political tools, and their opinions should be judged in that light.

BTW: Scalia follows the party line as much as anybody. Judge his dissent accordingly

Posted 340 days ago.

BeRight

The financial news reports that the biggest winners in the SCOTUS decision are the hospitals.

They will make tons more money.

The biggest losers are the newly insured who think they will get care from a system that is already stretched.

Obamacare is not about health care, it is about insurance.

Posted 340 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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