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2 days ago.
by BeRight
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Obamacare is not "FREE" health care

People have finally realized that the word “free” is nowhere to be found in Obamacare’s “ Affordable Health Care Act”. Coverage under President Barack Obama's health care law won't be cheap. A study released Thursday by the nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation found that government tax credits would lower the sticker price on a benchmark "silver" policy to a little over $190 a month for single people making about $29,000, regardless of their age. For uninsured people who are paying nothing today, this is still a big cost that they're expected to fit into their budgets.

 
 

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Tiredofit

LTS Obama has no right to change the law that was passed by congress, he IS breaking the law

Posted 67 days ago.

luvthesouth

*democrats. do you really wish to drag in the wars to deflect from your discussion of the merits of this law? you are running away from the discussion of this law faster than the democrats that are up for re-election are running away from Obama.

Posted 67 days ago.

luvthesouth

BobBarker...when the democrtas were in power...they could have given us the insurance you are claiming the republicans did not allow...but they didn't. listen...can you not discuss anything about this without slamming the republicans? lets talk about the merits of the A.C.A. but if you are that one-dimensional then just let me know and you can continue to parrot your line by yourself...O.K.?

Posted 67 days ago.

luvthesouth

facilities and doctors that are willing to work with and in some instances forgive any debt just to provide for the patient. just in our area we have several "free" or pay what you can clinics that offer health services as well as a great county health department that provides many services that are free to the residents. i think the healthcare crisis was overstated to achieve some goal other than what we have been lead to believe. "the dish can't be that great if it is always being sent back to the cook."

Posted 67 days ago.

luvthesouth

BobBarker..while it is great to be sold on how benevolent a program is, it is another thing to actually understand the true cost of their benevolence. please understand something...i think that everyone should want good healthcare. now the rub comes in as to whom is going to pay for that healthcare. how do you hold people responsible and ensure that they provide it for themselves. well you can that is what the A.C.A does. O.K., i'll agree. now let's also agree that the requirement for them to actually pay when it is subsidized to the point of being free does not accomplish what the A.C.A. intended. the A.C.A. set the guidelines for what we, that are able to pay , have to purchase and not what we want to purchase. there are many charities that exist for the sole purpose of providing assistance for those that require operations or procedures but do not have the funds. there are also medical failities and doctors that are willing to work with and in some instances forgive any debt just t

Posted 67 days ago.

luvthesouth

BobBarker...those tax breaks or subsidies are for their monthly premium not their deductable. now...how do they pay their deductable?

Posted 67 days ago.

luvthesouth

so how are they going to pay the deductable???????????

Posted 67 days ago.

luvthesouth

*enforcement

Posted 67 days ago.

luvthesouth

also there to seize assets and assess deductions from payroll and other income on the average joe...you know the ones the democrats are looking out for.

Posted 67 days ago.

luvthesouth

BobBarker...how are they going to cough up the deductable when they need to use their newly aquired but unpaid for health insurance? these are the same folks that did not see fit to be either able to afford health insurance or chose to spend their money on other items. lets face it chances are they were already on another taxpayer provided program whether it was housing, food, income, health, disability or any other program for those that are income-challenged. the A.C.A. has shifted a greater burden on those that could not even afford it before. i just don't see how you think this is a great idea...the only obvious reason is that it was the democrats that said it was needed. i know for a fact that the same fear of losing assets will be there even after the full implementation of the law. why do you think the law has the I.R.S. do the financial enforcemnet and collection? do not kid yourself it is to ensure that the greedy corporations, as you like to call them, pony up...but it is al

Posted 67 days ago.

luvthesouth

btw bobbarker...i still like you and hope you have top notch healthcare.

Posted 68 days ago.

luvthesouth

this debacle is still the republicans fault isn't it? amuse us and put as much effort in assigning blame to the democrats that crafted, approved and signed into law this cluster duck of a law.

Posted 68 days ago.

luvthesouth

well i will give you credit...that last post actually gace some credit to the potential assistance from the republicans in the crafting of the A.C.A. it's too bad they were just tokens at the table. just becuase i invite you to a board meeting does not mean you are allowed any input. that was the case. the democrats wrote the legislation, passed it and signed it. they own it....oops now we inherited it?????? i don' think so. anyway one way or the other one this is for certain...this will be yet another governemnt do-good program that puts us further in debt...now where the heck do i keep those bitcoins?

Posted 68 days ago.

luvthesouth

*everyone *sometimes gosh i stink at typing....some would argue thinking as well. i may just agree with them to a point. :-)

Posted 68 days ago.

luvthesouth

*create

Posted 68 days ago.

luvthesouth

BobBarker...i did not see the fingerprint of a democrat in your post. not ready to voice any criticism against them? so what is proper and right? give us a breakdown of the why it is the republicans fault that the democrats could not unilaterally greate a law that does what you wish. they had plenty of time and power to do just what you have described...but they failed. it goes way beyond a failed website. the entire program is being set up to do one thing....and that thing is not what you expect. anyway, if they really wanted to place the american citizens well-being above the next politcal cycle, they would allow the bad(reality) occur alongside the good(whimsical). the president has chosen to side-step the constitution and govern by decree.the democrats have made a mess and expect evryone from the republicans to the insurance companies to clean it up. soemtimes you have to stop and realize you can't really make pies out of mud.

Posted 68 days ago.

luvthesouth

*that *corpse

Posted 68 days ago.

luvthesouth

asknot...there is a reason why i am not in a position to solve the problem...that reason is i am too darn smart to put myself in that position. seriously though...i have mentioned in the past several ideas regarding your question of how to solve the manufactured healthcare crisis. just accepting an inferior product and saying"well that's the best they can do" is not a wise or lasting decision. anybody can just "do something", but really any bum on the street can suggest something...you know it may even work better than this catastrophe that so many are defending. it is my opinion tat in time, just like a rotting corspe, sooner or later it will be reduced to dust and some will be having this discussion again and again and again.

Posted 68 days ago.

luvthesouth

the time for good reason. i think many have forgotten that everyone had access to some form of healthcare if desired as well as free healthcare. you would have been surprised at the number of charitable organizations, doctors themselves and hospitals that took care of the many health problems of our citizens at sometimes little or not cost. so end the Bobbarker...what would you tell your democratic leaders to do to fix this problem...he has a pen and will use it.

Posted 68 days ago.

luvthesouth

BobBarker, first off...thank you for your reasoned response..it is most appreciated. i think you in person on these forums should be hammering the democrats to clean up their own mess. you have a democratic president, that modifies unconstitutionly the law, you have democratic lawmakers that are distancing themselves from the law as far as possible, and you have the people the united states more than confused and confounded with the reid, pelosi, and obama healthcare law. i think your constant criticism and lambasting of the republicans for the mess that the democrats not only dreamed up but wanted immensely is sorely mis-directed. with that said....if we are going to have the program then when is the opportune time for all to feel the pain in the pocket for the law? you can only put off for so long before either the money is borrowed (creating debt) or money is retrieved from everyone's back-pocket (except for exempted groups and certain people). healthcare is expensive and most of t

Posted 68 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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