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by Ohwiseone
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Obamacare is not "FREE" health care

People have finally realized that the word “free” is nowhere to be found in Obamacare’s “ Affordable Health Care Act”. Coverage under President Barack Obama's health care law won't be cheap. A study released Thursday by the nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation found that government tax credits would lower the sticker price on a benchmark "silver" policy to a little over $190 a month for single people making about $29,000, regardless of their age. For uninsured people who are paying nothing today, this is still a big cost that they're expected to fit into their budgets.

 
 

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moderation

beright-unions are affected by collective bargaining agreements, that have a legal 'lifetime'.

Posted 241 days ago.

BeRight

There is no longer any congressional oversight on the plan.

The people who voted for it are running away from it and many groups are asking for excemptions.

If it is that would why do unions want out?

Posted 241 days ago.

BeRight

My insurance rate has increased as well as my deductibles.

What I do not like is that Obama lied about "you can keep your plan" and "you can keep your doctor".

What else I do not like is that every legislator who voted for this plan did not read it before they voted for it. The plan keeps being changed without the benefit of congressional oversight. The plan is being run by thirty somethings in the whitehouse without consulting the legislature.

thats the short list.

Posted 241 days ago.

moderation

Tired- if you are involved in a car wreck and don't have ins. coverage, you will be fined, and maybe sued as well, plus that loss will be passed on to other insureds.this is practice is intended to protect the larger 'group'.

Posted 241 days ago.

moderation

Tired- you know the process. the aca was enacted, with the blessing of the scotus to boot.

Posted 242 days ago.

moderation

beright- what doncha like about people with pre- existing conditions obtaining once prohibited coverage? what doncha like about no lifetime limits on coverage? WellPoint raised its rates 39% in one year, not many years ago. There will always be dissension from any legislation by different individuals and groups.The 'right' spawned this baby,and then turned their backs.The heritage foundation actually promoted most aspects of the aca, before they were against it. Does romneycare,in the state of Massachusetts, stir a memory? Why was that presidential candidate against his own legislation? This is a process and it is progressing as it should.

Posted 242 days ago.

BeRight

Mod, the 80% number is estimated. Since the ACA website has no backend, no one knows anything for sure. But if your numbers are correct that would leave 40,000,000+ still uninsured. Also, premiums are projected to go up for all insured folks including those who have insurance from the ACA and those who have insurance from other sources.

On last thing, the numbers of enrollees does not answer the question as to why so many groups are trying to get exemptions from this law including many unions.

The goal of 7 million, if it were really met, still leaves a lot of unintended road kill it it’s path.

Go ahead and sleep tight tonight since according to you all is well.

Posted 242 days ago.

BobDahler

Tiredofit: You may wish to ponder the reason you find it necessary to cast aspersions in order to emphasize your points.

Such attempts at distraction are usually perceived as a ploy to conceal a lack of knowledge.

Posted 242 days ago.

Kendall78

"I expect very little..."

Tired, your expectations are formed from a lack of knowledge and insight.

Posted 242 days ago.

Kendall78

"I suppose they don't have things like work"

Well, there is that ignorance showing again in you Tired.

Posted 242 days ago.

moderation

Over 80%, of the just over 6 million who have enrolled in the aca, have paid their premiums,and that number is expected to surge today.The 'new' " we the people" are speaking.

Posted 242 days ago.

Bigfoot

I post before work and after work. But with comments like that...man all you are doing is stirring the pot.

Posted 242 days ago.

BobDahler

BTW.. If the threat of Ted Strickland's brand of socialism terrifies you sufficiently, I can provide a comprehensive list of countries that may provide an appropriate amount of anti-liberal conservatism for you to consider emulating. As a teaser: number one on the list is North Korea, number two is Afghanistan. If you need more, just ask.

Posted 242 days ago.

BobDahler

Tiredofit: The unmitigated gall you display by invoking the memory of the servicemen and women who have fought for our country, as a kind of misguided justification for your attitude, is appalling. There are many of them who have, and do, disagree with you.

Posted 242 days ago.

Kendall78

@Bigfoot- it is a sad thing when people like Tired would put our nation high on a pedestal of bones and not even realize it.

The US is a great nation, but it is also a great fluke of history and we are lucky for it. So many historical moments converged together with the right people and with the right concepts to create us. Our glory is that we have adapted with the times. Only a fool would think that the Founding Fathers would approve or recognize our nation the way it is now.

Posted 243 days ago.

Kendall78

In all that bluster you never say why Socialism is evil. You incorrectly call it theft when it is not. You will not find any legitimate definition of Socialism that includes theft except from those that do not understand it.

There are no good or evil forms of govt, only how we humans use them to govern ourselves.

Of course there are some forms of govt that works better with human nature. Wisely, our nation has incorporated aspects of democracy, republicanism and even socialism to make us a great nation. I am sorry you do not see that Tired. I pity you.

Posted 243 days ago.

Kendall78

Tired, you are ignorant because I have a "decent job" and pay my taxes.

You are a twit because I am one of those that served my country. You can save your drama for someone who cares.

Posted 243 days ago.

Kendall78

Wow Tired, you are a pompous, ignorant little twit aren't you?

"You are far to young and inexperienced to understand that."

I lived when the USSR was still in existence. I studied the origins of Socialism, Republicanism and other forms of govt. This is why you are pompous to assume otherwise.

Posted 243 days ago.

Bigfoot

But hey. Karma right?

Tiredofit? What would you call coming into a foreign land and taking said land from the people living on it?

That was theft wasn't it?

This country was born out of an act of theft.

From whence you came so thou shalt return!

Posted 243 days ago.

Bigfoot

It sure is a lot worse than saying socialism isn't evil. Completely ignoring that we are allied with countries that are socialistic in nature.

Correction.

Posted 243 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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