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365 days ago.
by R1KRA8
TheFrog
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Members of Congress should not undermine the U.S. government

United States Congressmen should not threaten the existence of the United States government simply because those Congressmen do not like a program. It is the height of fiscal irresponsibility for a Congress to threaten to not pay debts that it has incurred because it does not like a program that it has created. Voters should pay closer attention to the behavior of their elected officials and ask themselves whether those officials really represent them, of if those officials are instead paid-for hires of immoral billionaires who spend their time shoving cocaine up their nostrils.

 
 

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luvthesouth

BeRight, i suppose that it could be repealed as it would theoretically not be needed. however, the anti-discrimination inference of the law could be an excuse for keeping it on the books as a just in case. but as you say...if everyone is covered then all will be served.

Posted 403 days ago.

scrappile

No profit, yes fantasyland is right next to taxfreebia, why do certain scripts, therapies, tests, cost 10 times less in Canada, a real country:-) , than in the U.S....Our congress has had more than enough time to work on these answers, but political theatre is both parties method of choice, and big pharma contributions get much more influence,than the ghost of Tom Joad lobby....

Posted 403 days ago.

BeRight

LTS: if Obamacare mandates all to have insurance, does this old Reagan law go by the boards? As we know, some will have insurance that will not cover their needs so what happens?

Posted 403 days ago.

luvthesouth

sorry about the misspellings, i was distracted by the preview for hello-kitty.

Posted 403 days ago.

luvthesouth

friends, relatives and co-workers. excuse me but hello-kitty just came on and i can't miss it.

Posted 403 days ago.

luvthesouth

in discussion. your cancer vs. profit scenario is interesting in that my reference to free treatment involved cancer. but on to the pessimistic side of my personality. so are you saying that if one has cancer that the treatment and time for the doctor, nurses and other support staff should be free? taxpayer-funded is a broad net in which to cast. however, i have thought that in the past that any medication or treatment that was a direct result of public funds should be sold or invoiced at cost. the problem being that unless the government is honestly producing the medication or wholly providing treatment can you possibly begin to have a zero profit situation. that will never happen since costs change as well as salaries and benifits along with production costs and naturally you have to raise taxes or borrow as we do now to put off paying the piper. it will not happen except in fantasyland. i looked at the world map and it does not exist. pass that along to all of your idealistic frien

Posted 403 days ago.

luvthesouth

scrappile, the act you are refencing is called the "Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act" or commonly known as the anti-dumping act whereby hospitals that receive fderal funds such as medicaid and medicare can not refuse to treat the non-insured. strings were and are attached to any federal dollar. to add insult to injury, medicare and medicaid only reimburse that which they deem reasonable. which in most cases does not always adequately cover the costs. at the time there was a Democratic House and a Republican Senate with reagan as president. i'll assume that, like now, any refusal to pass "heart-string" legislation would be political suicide. regarding the judicial question...you are aware that many times a payout without guilt is made more often than not just to save the litigation of claims which can be very costly in both time and money. i only mentioned that scenario as an example of the rising costs of healthcare that many people do not consider

Posted 403 days ago.

scrappile

I believe there was one answer to rising premiums in the question, reagan signed that law, which also raised premiums by treating those that can't afford, who is paying, for that consumers of healthcare, one answer is to do away with the 3rd party payer system, but not being able to be compensated for negligence, that is not only in the healthcare system, so why should that system be exempt from the judicial system. Greed, do you believe one should profit from anothers cancer, especially if taxpayer funded research brought about the treatment.....

Posted 403 days ago.

BeRight

More good news on Gov't shutdown: U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Gina McCarthy said the agency will “effectively shut down” unless Congress approves stopgap funding by Oct. 1, according to a report from the Associated Press.

Without the stopgap funding, McCarthy said the agency will be unable to pay employees, and only a core group of staff members would remain on duty in case the agency has to respond to a significant emergency. According to the Associated Press, most EPA function like drafting regulations and enforcing rules would remain stalled until government operations resume.

Posted 403 days ago.

luvthesouth

military-style system...namely you can't sue and retire rich for any medical malfeasance. if you are not aware, many smaller regional hospitals have gone belly-up and could have been appropriated at a very reasonable cost and then staffed with government hired phsycians and support staff. rest assured however, that unless there was a medical treatment facility at their doorstep and god forbid anyone would have to travel for FREE care, the complaining and b itching would never stop. now maybe other than your end-all Greed reason, you could explain why premiums (as well as everything else) have risen steadily and the not share some blame on the perpetual poor and working poor.

Posted 403 days ago.

luvthesouth

scrappile, you posed an excellent question. i can tell you from first hand experience that there are/were several ways to get the medical care and surgery at a minimal cost that one may need prior to this abortion called Obamacare. many of the poor/homeless do not seek out ongoing or preventative healthcare for a variety of reasons. many of those reasons do not support destroying our current systen only to be made subject to I.R.S. domination. this program does nothing but further enslave our precious middle-class and working poor. how you can't see it is beyond me. apparently you did not read the bill either. quite possibly you and Pelosi may wish to have a chat. the government already runs a very efficient and large healthcare system. the U.S. military healthcare system. it befuddled me as to why the dumbocrats did not use the military as a model for "free" or "subsidized" healthcare. the one caveat would be the strings and restrictions associated with use of the

Posted 403 days ago.

BeRight

I hope it goes all the way to Gov’t shutdown. Since the last shutdown, the Democrats made more and more Gov’t employees “essential” workers who would not be affected. A Gov’t shutdown would result in the same thing the Big Bad Sequester: talking points for the media and Obama but in realty a F A R T in a windstorm.

Posted 403 days ago.

luvthesouth

members of our government and the private-sector exempted should participate in this convoluted social tax program that they gleefully rammed down the throats of the american taxpayer. like a cheap sweater, this boondoggle is unravelling right in front of them and the american people. it is just sad to see how many people are deluding themselves into thinking failure is success and not facing the fact that this program is unworkable and will not perform as advertised. it started out as a lie and the lie continues to create many who will need treatment for their severe cases of blind idolatry and denial.

Posted 403 days ago.

thegreek

Andy and Amy Mangione of Louisville, Ky. and their two boys are just the kind of people who should be helped by ObamaCare. But they recently got a nasty surprise in the mail. "When I saw the letter when I came home from work," Andy said, describing the large red wording on the envelope from his insurance carrier, "(it said) 'your action required,benefit changes, act now.' Of course I opened it immediately." It had stunning news. Insurance for the Mangiones and their two boys,which they bought on the individual market, was going to almost triple in 2014 --- from $333 a month to $965. The insurance carrier made it clear the increase was in order to be compliant with the new health care law. "This isn't a Cadillac plan, this isn't even a silver plan," Mangione said, referring to higher levels of coverage under ObamaCare.

Posted 404 days ago.

thegreek

Frog. The ACA is gonna cost the working person more for less choice. One fellows family of 4 on TV this morning said their monthly premium was going from $333 to $964 a month !! The ACA is not what was promised!! It was supposed to be better coverage and cheaper. It is neither from what I see. Not many people even understand the 1005 page long bill. The dems, Pelosi and Reid played back door politics to get their own party to vote for it. The working person is having to pay the lions share of this nightmare so %15 more of the population is covered. Not only that, jobs are being cut because of the increased benefit costs. Doctors are dropping out. Medical corporations are not offering services in the pool. It aint a bit good !!Less choices. More taxes.

Posted 404 days ago.

scrappile

And.....go .......

Posted 404 days ago.

scrappile

What if you want it and can't pay for it, Obama has been potus for nearly 6 years,nexplain away the rising cost of premiums for the last 40 years...try not to blame victims or the WORKING poor, and remember, reagan signed the law making hospitals treat those that could not pay......and govt.....

Posted 404 days ago.

BeRight

Average employer health care costs will raise 6% in 2014 a and 3% of that is directly attributable to Obamacare due to new fees and mandated coverage. The increase would be closer to 10% if employers weren’t shifting costs to employees due to the unknown of Obamacare. Liberals and Unions are lining up to be exempted from Obamacare so it can’t be all it is cracked up to be. Obamacare totally changes health care to in order to cover 5-7% of the population who did not want to pay for it or could not get it. This is called cutting of the head to save the body.

Posted 404 days ago.

BeRight

Companies are no longer offering healthcare insurance and are telling employees to go to exchanges to fend for themselves. Granted, companies are for the most part giving them a healthcare allowance to do that but they are no longer providing healthcare coverage guidance. The mandated “preventative care” coverage options which now have to be included in every plan are raising coverage prices for all. Part time workers are having their hours cut to keep them under the “fulltime” status mark so employers don’t have to provide insurance. These same employees will be mandated to buy their own, on their own. The youngest people who can least afford to pay insurance will now be forced to pay the "most" for insurance as mandated by the gov’t.

Posted 404 days ago.

BeRight

Companies are no longer offering healthcare insurance and are telling employees to go to exchanges to fend for themselves. Granted, companies are for the most part giving them a healthcare allowance to do that but they are no longer providing healthcare coverage guidance. The mandated “preventative care” coverage options which now have to be included in every plan are raising coverage prices for all. Part time workers are having their hours cut to keep them under the “fulltime” status mark so employers don’t have to provide insurance. These same employees will be mandated to buy their own, on their own. The youngest people who can least afford to pay insurance will not be forced to pay the most for insurance as mandated by the gov’t.

Posted 404 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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