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335 days ago.
by R1KRA8
TheFrog
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Members of Congress should not undermine the U.S. government

United States Congressmen should not threaten the existence of the United States government simply because those Congressmen do not like a program. It is the height of fiscal irresponsibility for a Congress to threaten to not pay debts that it has incurred because it does not like a program that it has created. Voters should pay closer attention to the behavior of their elected officials and ask themselves whether those officials really represent them, of if those officials are instead paid-for hires of immoral billionaires who spend their time shoving cocaine up their nostrils.

 
 

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The right wingers jump up and dump on the birthday cake......., then they try to clean it up, and encourage everyone to enjoy its' special flavor.

Posted 365 days ago.

scrappile

Lost: 1 brain( rarely used from Jan 2001-Jan 2009) and billions of dollars, if brain is found return to one dumb sum£*%+h in podunk , Texas, last known whereabouts of money was near Baghdad, Iraq

Posted 371 days ago.

scrappile

LTS, point of the Denver Post article from me was to show average canucks are not taxed much more than our citizens, with cheaper healthcare, allowances that will let you goto U.S. for some procedures, and cheaper higher education, , again two members of one family need liver transplants, one has insurance, one is self pay, one passed on, the other recycles, hence their moniker.....

Posted 372 days ago.

BeRight

scrappile: I guess you feel that Obamacare will fix all these things. I do not. I guess we will soon find out. I hope you are correct but my fear is you are not.

Posted 372 days ago.

luvthesouth

affirmed the federal government's commitment to provide mostly free health care to all, including the 200,000 immigrants arriving each year. The system is called Medicare (no relation to Medicare in the United States)." same year different view. i assume the denver post and its employees do not use Canada's healthcare system.

Posted 372 days ago.

luvthesouth

ligament. "Every day we're paying for health care, yet when we go to access it, it's just not there," said Pelton. The average Canadian family pays about 48 percent of its income in taxes each year, partly to fund the health care system. Rates vary from province to province, but Ontario, the most populous, spends roughly 40 percent of every tax dollar on health care, according to the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. The system is going broke, says the federation, which campaigns for tax reform and private enterprise in health care. The federal government and virtually every province acknowledge there's a crisis: a lack of physicians and nurses, state-of-the-art equipment and funding. In Ontario, more than 10,000 nurses and hospital workers are facing layoffs over the next two years unless the provincial government boosts funding, says the Ontario Hospital Association, which represents health care providers in the province. In 1984 Parliament passed the Canada Health Act, which

Posted 372 days ago.

luvthesouth

courtesy of cbs news in 2009...the same year as your article. "A letter from the Moncton Hospital to a New Brunswick heart patient in need of an electrocardiogram said the appointment would be in three months. It added: "If the person named on this computer-generated letter is deceased, please accept our sincere apologies." The patient wasn't dead, according to the doctor who showed the letter to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity. But there are many Canadians who claim the long wait for the test and the frigid formality of the letter are indicative of a health system badly in need of emergency care.Americans who flock to Canada for cheap flu shots often come away impressed at the free and first-class medical care available to Canadians, rich or poor. But tell that to hospital administrators constantly having to cut staff for lack of funds, or to the mother whose teenager was advised she would have to wait up to three years for surgery to repair a torn knee

Posted 372 days ago.

scrappile

So it would seem the .01% difference in taxes in that socialist haven Canada, might be better spent on national single payer healthcare, than insurande premiums, which undoubtedly are more than .01% of your income.....

Posted 372 days ago.

scrappile

Debunking Canadian health care myths - The Denver Post ****denverpost****/opinion/ci_12523427 Jun 7, 2009 - At the end of the day, the average after-tax income of Canadian workers is equal to about 82 percent of their gross pay. In the U.S., that average

Posted 372 days ago.

scrappile

Myth: Canada's health care system is a cumbersome bureaucracy.

The U.S. has the most bureaucratic health care system in the world. More than 31 percent of every dollar spent on health care in the U.S. goes to paperwork, overhead, CEO salaries, profits, etc. The provincial single-payer system in Canada operates with just a 1 percent overhead. Think about it. It is not necessary to spend a huge amount of money to decide who gets care and who doesn't when everybody is covered.

Posted 372 days ago.

scrappile

Myth: Taxes in Canada are extremely high, mostly because of national health care.

In actuality, taxes are nearly equal on both sides of the border. Overall, Canada's taxes are slightly higher than those in the U.S. However, Canadians are afforded many benefits for their tax dollars, even beyond health care (e.g., tax credits, family allowance, cheaper higher education), so the end result is a wash. At the end of the day, the average after-tax income of Canadian workers is equal to about 82 percent of their gross pay. In the U.S., that average is 81.9 percent.....source article in Denver Post.....

Posted 372 days ago.

Valveguy

Scrappile: do you think maybe they pay a lot higher taxes in Canada to pay for their free health care? Also, Obamcare is not FREE. You have to go buy insurance. That is the big difference between free Gov’t health care and Obamacare. Also, are you one of the people who think your insuracne premiums will go DOWN under the Affordable (LOL) Health Care Act/ Unless you are on Medicare, I hope you post once you find out what it cost once you visit the exchange.

The news reports are starting to fill up will shell shocked insuracnt shoppers

Posted 372 days ago.

Valveguy

The Kaiser Family Foundation has a calculator, recommended by the gov’t site of healthcare. gov and it allows you to get an estimate of what your cost will be for healthcare on the new exchange. I am currently paying ~$300 per month for employer based insurance. I did the calculator and it said that a bronze plan would cost me $950 per month if I did not have company insurance. The is just for my wife and I. Their site it kkf . org

Posted 372 days ago.

scrappile

Due to a catastrophic event.....

Posted 372 days ago.

Valveguy

In a recent speech Obama threw out the number of 15 million Americans who will now be able to get health insurance.

That means the whole health care thing has been about taking care of ~5% of the citizens of the USA. Couldn’t we have done that without the other 95% being drug into this train wreck?

Posted 372 days ago.

scrappile

you have to be gainfully employed to immigrate to Canada, now 1 blood test that is needed once a month is 280.00, now how does aperson making minimum wage pay this, in Canada its paid for, in the U.S., he simply bypasses the test, leading to complications and more expense in the future, or gets medicaid.....I also knew canucks pleased withtheir healthcare and never filed bankruptcy due to medical bills, or lost everything they spent 10-20 years building......

Posted 372 days ago.

thegreek

I used to work with a guy from Montreal. he said their healthcare wasnt as great as everyone thinks. Long waiting lines because everyone goes to the dr for every little thing. If you have a job, you get priority over those that do not.

Posted 373 days ago.

luvthesouth

scrappile, a quick search yielded an answer to your cost of drug question. it was answered by a doctor. they gave a two part answer. 1) the cost of medication is regulated by a review board. but the board also has the ability to nix newer or higher cost introductory drugs. 2) the canadian standard of living was listed at 20-30% below the standard of living here in the United States. i feel certain that would be an average as i am sure there are highs and lows in both countries. i will agree that both parties have contributed to every woe in this country, but the true responsibility falls on the voting public. we give them permission to do as they please and power over us at each election. the one telling thing to me during the mid-term election was when the tea party was attacked by both the democrats and the republicans. it was obvious that our two major parties are really one party. good cop vs. bad cop. flip when necessary.

Posted 373 days ago.

luvthesouth

practitioner referral to treatment by a specialist was 17.7 weeks in Canada. Despite substantial increases in both health spending and federal cash transfers to the provinces for health care over the past 15 or so years, that wait time was 49 per cent longer than the overall median wait time of 11.9 weeks back in 1997. It was 91 per cent longer than the overall median wait time of 9.3 weeks back in 1993." sometimes cheap is not always a great deal. btw...hope to see you in taxfreebia! bring your sun screen.

Posted 373 days ago.

luvthesouth

scrappile, good evening. i did a quick search on your canada question and found that some articles celebrated the lower cost...but at what price to the average canadian???? well it seems that from a huffington post canada article the canadians seem to be getting what we may look forward to having....at least those that will have to suffer through obamacare...you know us exempt folks. here are two short paragraphs as an example. "Canadian taxpayers are not receiving the same sort of value that their counterparts in other nations are when it comes to universally accessible health care. This despite the fact some 68 per cent of personal income taxes paid in aggregate are required to cover the cost of Canada's taxpayer-funded health care program. In fact, Canadians spend much more for their health care and receive lower quality care than other countries with universal-access systems." "Consider the case of waiting lists. In 2012, the median wait time from general practition

Posted 373 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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