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278 days ago.
by BobBarker
Kendall78
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Comparison: Obamacare and Prohibition

In the 1920, the 18th Amendment went into effect and made the US a "dry" country. For 13 years the hardest hit by this law was working class people, while those who made the laws had booze whenever they wanted it. Now we have a law that (so far) is extremely unpopular and effects the working class people while those in power may not have to participate. Are their similarities in the two events? Could Obamacare be repealed? Discuss..be nice.

 
 

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BeRight

I saw this on this morning about the great Obama lie:

If a landlord promises you can keep your dog when you move into an apartment, but then after you sign the lease he takes your dog and replaces it with a stuffed one, he wasn't telling you the truth. The landlord's view that the new dog is better ("No mess! No noise!") is utterly irrelevant to the question of whether the landlord lied —

and it doesn't make you a fool for preferring your old dog, either.

Posted 353 days ago.

luvthesouth

moderation, good morning. long time no speak. i trust you well. justice roberts had no other choice but to approve of the law based the ability of the government to tax under the interstate commerce clause. it is very telling in that it sets a precedence in that any mandate as long as it is presented as a tax may force approval by the supreme court. the decision to allow this law should be troubling to all americans as it shows how little control you actually have over your government and its ability to force compliance. this shows there are no limits to what they can and will do.

Posted 353 days ago.

luvthesouth

indication that some very nasty things are included in the mandate. as i have mentioned before...this is the ultimate bait and switch by this administration as well as the democrats. the law was passed based on a huge lie and continues to be frought with deception and ineptitude by this administration and its assigned members. in the end, the middle class and the younger workers will bear the brunt of this law and it will end up becoming another crippling and burdensome program that i personally believe was designed to fail from the beginning. i think i need a drink now!

Posted 353 days ago.

luvthesouth

those that have to cough up the full amount out of pocket on a monthly basis. even assuming that the tax credit may be applied from the start, the year-end completion of your taxes would actually determine your tax liability. one other thing to consider are the immense powers that the IRS has in which to enforce compliance. i feel that the issues with the implementation of prohibition will pale in comparison to this particular law. although i will agree ahead of time that loss of life in the enforcement will most likely not exist. it will be interesting to see whether a black market industry will crop up after full implemetation of the ACA in the same way as happened with prohibition. since many have not actually delved very far into the law, it will be of interest how fraud and litigation will be handled. as is being revealed on a daily basis are distasteful elements of the ACA. the finger pointing and scape-goating straight out of the gate by the administration is an obvious indica

Posted 353 days ago.

luvthesouth

Kendall78, while the consumption of alcohol is not mandated, the tenents of the ACA require mandatory participation or a penalty that will be not only assessed but enforced by the internal revenue service by seizure or forfeiture of assets. personally, i feel that other measures such as allowing competition beyond state lines and possible government owned facilities with federally employed staff (military style) could have been a viable option. the only major issue with that scenario is that politics would ultimately muddy the program. after visiting the ACA calcuator and entering an average income for a family with just three adults, one being an adult(18+) child, it showed a total cost of around $1200.00 per month for coverage. of that $1200.00 approximately $650.00 would be allowed as a tax credit. from my understanding of accounting along with completion of personal and corporate tax returns, the tax credit would be applied at the end of the year which is of no consolation to thos

Posted 353 days ago.

moderation

I can't think of a reason why a faithful Roman Catholic,such as John Roberts,could be blackmailed 'into throwing a vote' for the ACA.

Posted 353 days ago.

Kunectdots

"ObamaCare: Mandatory Microchip Implant for all Americans!!!"

h ttp://w ww.youtube.c om/watch?v=ObA3OIo8_94

Posted 353 days ago.

Kendall78

"They won't have to tattoo numbers on your arms.."

Did we just slip into Shoah or Revelation here?

Posted 354 days ago.

Kunectdots

Let's not forget that it took the power of another leg of the federal triangle to push DemoCare over the Finish Line.

SCOTUS Chief Justice John Roberts had to decree that DemoCare was "a tax", and therefore constitutional, to engage it.

Now, I don't want to hear the redundant "What about Social Security and Medicare" mantras, which ARE taxes by mandatory participation in government PROGRAMS. DemoCare is the mandatory purchasing of a PRODUCT, that may well be the Road to H-ell for our nation.

With the actions of Chief Justice Roberts (who may have been Blackmailed) I would suggest that we might consider a constitutional amendment rescinding the "shall hold their Offices (for life)" status of justices under Article III, Section I.

Posted 354 days ago.

Kunectdots

They won't have to tattoo numbers on your arms for the next culling, Kendall.

If you want to continue eating, under their system, you WILL willing stick out the back of your hand to accept their 'number'.

Posted 354 days ago.

Kendall78

@lts- I've always hoped that it will be modified. That of course was a major error in Prohibition. It was quitting cold turkey and expected an entire culture that had a long history of alcohol to just quit because the govt said so. That can be one difference between the two, the essence of Health Care already exists for most Americans where prohibition did not.

Posted 354 days ago.

Kendall78

"the mandated individual numbering of those that don't want to be 'numbered' by their Overseers."

I believe every citizen is already numbered, even without Obamacare.

Posted 354 days ago.

Kunectdots

ObamaCare (DemoCare) is the perfect vehicle, combined with a lackadaisical attitude toward immigration laws (even after 'reform'), to provide for the mandated individual numbering of those that don't want to be 'numbered' by their Overseers.

Posted 354 days ago.

Kunectdots

"Hey Chicago, New York, Philli, DC, Oakland, Detroit, St. Louis and New Orleans! We made a little mistake when we gave you that "affordable health care coverage" (free for millions of you) and WE'RE GOING TO BACKPEDDLE ON IT!"

"What do ya'll think?"

Ahhhh...Kendall. I think I'll avoid the podium when you announce that one.

Posted 354 days ago.

luvthesouth

Kendall78, you are bright enough to know and recognize the many similarities and differences. short answer...yes, it can repealed. will it???....i doubt it.....will it be modified...absolutely.

Posted 354 days ago.

Kendall78

I put this up because I heard two older gentlemen talking about the topic and I thought it was interesting.

At the least I thought it could make for an interesting topic.

Posted 354 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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