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174 days ago.
by BeRight
Kendall78
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Arizona's SB1062 Legal or Illegal?

The state legislature of AZ passed this and it awaits for Gov. Brewer to either sign it into law or Veto it. Basically put, it allows owners of businesses to refuse to serve people if it conflicts with their religious beliefs. So, is it a good bill? Bad? Legal or illegal?

 
 

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thegreek

OK you are saying the religious peoples beliefs are trumped by the gay and lesbian peoples rights!!

Posted 177 days ago.

thegreek

I have said before I would serve them. Some deeply devout religious people would not !!

Posted 177 days ago.

thegreek

I am not switching personalities. I just think you cant have it both ways at once. You are refusing to see the side of a religious person. You are trampling their rights, are you not ?? Fairness for all people???

Posted 177 days ago.

luvthesouth

it is the humane thing to do...don't you think?

Posted 177 days ago.

luvthesouth

asknot...sorry to say that is going to be a HUGE problem you are going to have to deal with. exofdevola stated "if that is offensive to your church so sorry". i do not attend a brick and mortar church. i spend time in worship and commune with Christ who is my church through what i believe is his word. since Christ is my "church", i suggested he take up any problem he has with my "church" with him. see the problem that i find with many mainstream christians is that they hang their salvation on the brick and mortar rather than being a part of the body of christ. christ intended to have a personal relationship with each and every person. i have built what i believe to be a personal relationship with him. i have my faith and confidence in him. you have your beliefs and i have never remotely questioned the validity of your beliefs. those are your beliefs and i respect your right to believe as you wish. it would be nice to have the consideration reciprocated. i

Posted 177 days ago.

Kendall78

Well...they vetoed it. Good for the Gov.

Posted 177 days ago.

thegreek

So it is OK to force a person to do something that is AGAINST their religion but not OK to do or say something that is against a gay or lesbians beliefs??? Kind of a double standard for a group that promotes acceptance like LGBT promotes isn't it ?? That is the pickle my friend !!

Posted 177 days ago.

luvthesouth

fred...there is plenty of judging going on here.....at this time namely yourself. i am fully aware of the spearation clause. it is quite apparent that you did not read or possibly understand when i said i do not agree with the proposed law. in addition, i also stated that i knew the purpose of the separation clause and agree with it as well. so what is your major malfunction???...especially when i agree with you.

Posted 177 days ago.

thegreek

LOL I will keep my pickle. But the religious people SEE it as forcing the lifestyle on them by making them serve them. I said before that I would try to think what Jesus would say or do and yes He would feed their minds AND their bodies secondary !!

Posted 177 days ago.

thegreek

I just watched Wolf Blitzer reporting on this. If the AZ gov. vetos the bill it will open up a can of worms for the religious freedom activists who are pushing for freedom of religion !!! And O Neill. We all were already judged to be guilty of sin by being born of ADAM. Only by accepting Jesus and washing those sins away with HIS blood are any of us free of sin. So. Point is other people are not judging, God has already done that. It is written word in the Bible. It is not fair to force religion upon others as it is not fair to force gay and lesbian upon them either. It is really a pickle !!

Posted 177 days ago.

luvthesouth

exofDevola, thank you for the words of wisdom. however, my church is Christ. any anonmosity you have toward my church is referred to him, so feel free to have a sit down with him anytime you wish and tell him why you disagree. he will listen. it appears to me throughout this conversation, you and others freely tell others what they shall accept and condone and yet you voice indignation that we should express our belief (and not tell you how to believe) based on our religion. maybe you failed to notice i never said you were wrong in your personal belief.

Posted 177 days ago.

exofDevola

LTS you certainly can follow whatever your church believes not condoning and following all the list of the do nots :that's why we have different churches . However when start telling others they have to believe what you do and condone or not whatever in the public sector / well don't pretend that is kosher it isn't - if that is offensive to your church so sorry /

Posted 177 days ago.

thegreek

Great conversations. I think we have all agreed on somethings here today !!

Posted 177 days ago.

moderation

We were created in His image ,lts.

Posted 177 days ago.

exofDevola

I say good posts moderation, Kendal,oneil ask not &' the Greek.mif people want to practice religion that sys we are the best( or think we are and we know we are the chosen and you aren't it ) in their own house worship, fine, then that's a church and I'm not going there. It's just too westboro baptist faux church to me. But hey that's what they call a church, not the public sector. The difference is the minute you start saying I believe you are gay, so you can't come in, it's against my beliefs, then have your little store on the grounds of your fake church, so then your followers can go there. When people say this my little Christian store , and its about my beliefs , not about discrimination of gay people. Well sorry about that, it is discrimination, and you are practicing it. Evidently in Arizona , that thinking is fine and dandy. They believe in one religion, theirs & whoever they say can they need to discriminate in the spirit of The Lord. Just a little hypocritical, y

Posted 177 days ago.

luvthesouth

....i also struggle with punctuation and spelling from time to time. 8-)

Posted 177 days ago.

luvthesouth

one more thing, i struggle with and that is being quicker with forgiveness than i am with condemnation. so forgive me one and all if i have upset anyone with my beliefs or thoughts. i respect you and your right to believe as you wish.

Posted 177 days ago.

luvthesouth

asknot...in addition, we all like to turn away from things that make us look bad. Christians are still human and have faults... as well as ...gasp...make mistakes. 8-)

Posted 177 days ago.

luvthesouth

asknot..i do think it is odd when non-believers suddenly believe that verses somehow have relevence only when pointing fault in a Christian.

Posted 177 days ago.

luvthesouth

written by Paul. however, we must understand that the flip-side of any coin may not be as palatable when speaking on the same subject. unfortunately to some, the Bible which is the Gods Guidebook for most Christians is not all love and rainbows...there are do's and don't do's in there. if you choose to overlook the don't do's then you might as well just write your own script for life because apparently Jesus' isn't for you. btw...good late afternoon to you.

Posted 177 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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