Are the Second Amendment "rights" of Americans really being "threatened" - or is this complaint just another gimmick to get the right-wing, reactionary base "fired up" for 2012?

also been catching some of the NRA fibfest in Houston to observe Huns, Goths, Vandals, and Vikings in their natural habitat ... I'm switching over to the other forum-topic on guns because this one is a bit outdated ... You HAVE heard that - despite all your conspiracy crap about Obama and Holder - the 2012 election didn't work out so well for you wingnuts?

@Greekster - I aborted your post about abortion. AMERICAN CITIZENS are upset about AR-15s because they seem to be the "weapon-of-choice" for mass-murderers like Holmes, Lanza, and the Tsarnaev brothers ... Yes, they are light, easily transported, and adaptable. Some like to drive oversized vehicles that don't fit into regular parking slots because they give such drivers the illusion that they are driving a semi-truck (without doing the work that real truck drivers - Sticky? - do). Gun-geeks like AR-15s because they give them the illusion of being "Rambo". There's nothing wrong with that, but these people's fantasies are NOT as important as the lives of our children ... I notice that none of the gun-geeks want to talk about that incident in Kentucky re. the "kiddie rifle" ... Sorry that I haven't been jumping at every silly tweet here, but I'm busy with a research-project about the "Dark Ages". I stop here occasionally to pick up material. I've

Still here I see ! Promise not kept !!

REMEMBER! I "promised" to buy both an AK and an AR BECAUSE of your pitiful protestations against our 2nd Amendment RIGHT to do so? PROMISE FULFILLED!

Of course it would have nothing to do with the blathering right-wing idiocy and veiled threats from our local tea bagger nuts ! Again konect, I thought you were leaving never to return ! Now that's the typical republican, making promises and never keeping them !

YEAH! "Art, where art thou, Art?"

I'm sure that Free/Munster's redundant drivel is a real financial boon for you with these forums. Thanks to him, you must have upward of a half-dozen followers here.

Wrongriki, your lies and right-wing piles of crap has not got you tossed off here . . . YET!

Art, where art thou, Art?

Munster, your kind of crap has not got you tossed off here . . . YET!

Art, where art thou, Art?

Now thats a real patriotism ! Your tea party fanatics have broached that subject many times ! Armed insurrection against our government ! They call that BEING A TRAITOR !! !And still there isn't a good reason for a civilian to own a military assault weapon ! And be careful konect , some shoot back and not just to "pop you in the As$" ! That's the kinda crap that'll get you tossed off here !

Odd, of the folks I know who own AR platform rifles, most are veterans or cops (or both). So, it's OK for a Dentist to own an AR, and shoot it to relieve stress, but it's not OK for me to do the same?

I've not heard NRA members talk about armed insurrection, either in what coverage I've heard from the annual meeting, or in general. What I've heard is the members saying they'll continue the fight against these pointless attempts to make our side the "bad guys" by the anti-gun crowd.

I wonder if someone were to pop Munster in the as-s with a .22, if he would change his mind about his belief that we HAVE A REASON to own that weapon??????????

Geek , you still have NO REASON for a civilian to own a assault weapon !

I'd expect propaganda from a communist but not a fellow American. Do you know what fellow American means?? You never answered my post about abortion !! Do you have no answer?

ONE PERCENT use AR's ONEILL.. From the FBI's own statistics. AGAIN, THE BILL WAS DEFEATED BECAUSE IT WOULDNT CHANGE ANYTHING THAT ALLOWS KILLERS TO OBTAIN WEAPONS.

NONE of the thus-far proposed gun-laws - neither Feinstein's nor the Toomey/Manchin Bill - infringes on anyone's Second-Amendment rights!!! I take it you STILL have not read the fine print in the "Heller" Decision! ... @Sticky - Why do these "law-abiding" citizens coming out at the NRA confab inn Huston keep talking about armed-insurrection. Don't y'all know that it's against the law?

Quibble, quibble! The perpetrators of most mass-killings dodn't use fully-automatic weapons. They used semi-automatics with clips, belts, or magazines of thirty-rounds. whether you or Wayne LaPierre consider the Bushmaster or any AR-15s to be "combat-weapons", the FACT (yes, those nasty things keep indruding upon your pre-packaged rhetoric) is that most Iraq or Afghanistan vets, and most urban police, consider them as such (yes, there are surveys to prove this - look them up) ... As Munster frequently asks, "What do you need these kinds of weapons for?" You say that it's to "relieve stress". There ARE other ways of doing that - i.e. Yoga? Lol! ... Someone should change the "fired up for 2012" part of my question to "fired up for the coming whack-job revolution" ...

As for your claims about polling results, you have NO proof that rural residents hold different opinions about guns than urban dwellers. A poll usually asks the same questions of a set number of people. They choose a certain number of respondents from all demographics, a representative sample. You could as easily find, in the set number of people from rural areas, people who don't own guns, don't like guns, etc. Just because the poll you cite shows nearly a 50/50 split does not prove the same numbers would come out with different people asked the same questions.

I doubt urban dwellers are different because of violence. Put the same questions to other folks, you'll find different numbers. That's the flaw with polls. Unless the poll taker is dropping the results they don't want. I've been called many times for a poll, and after the initial question, the poll taker hangs up. I guess they were looking for Democrats/anti-gun people/union members, whatever demographic.

Once again Freddie, you're making it up as you go along. I have never said anyone should have any kind of gun they want. We have full auto firearms strictly regulated. What you refuse to admit is the lunacy of the proposed laws your side is pushing.

The Ruger "Mini-14" is essentially the same rifle as any "AR" style rifle. It's magazine fed, actually uses the same magazine. It's bedded in a wooden stock rather than polymer. Feinstein's law would have banned any further production of it in a folding stock version, the full stock version would have been legal. It's the same firearm!

"agreeing with each other like some dorks in a HSN infommercial! ",.... now, that is a good one.

Keep up the good work. You sink your own ship so the NRA doesnt have to !!!