Are the Second Amendment "rights" of Americans really being "threatened" - or is this complaint just another gimmick to get the right-wing, reactionary base "fired up" for 2012?

Heres your non-existant proof fool !!!

North hollywood shootout ~~~ Wiki~~ You do know how to read dont you??

My guess is you should look up the police report retard ! I'm getting pretty tired of you being wrong and not accepting the truth ! So as far as I'm concerned your dumbas% can just sit around and look in a mirror and argue with yourself ! What a total fool !!

It was LA! It's hardly unbelievable that full auto firearms get smuggled into America, especially in states that share a common border with Mexico.

Show us even a shred of proof the crooks made legally sold semi-auto firearms into full auto! You can't, because none exists.

Pretty much, if you're a criminal, you're not too concerned with following gun laws. You know, armed robbery and murder kinda trump the punishment for violating gun laws.

Still trying in vain to prove a point you can't make, because you can't find proof. What an idiot!

Some people have enough brains to know when they have been wrong and have the guts to admit it ! I guess we'll have none of that here !

fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/civilrights/federal-statutes

fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/cyber

ic3.gov/default.aspx

Yeah tell that to the LA police dept after those two bank robbers held everyone at bay with full auto AK's ! You think those AK's were just a wave of a magic wand ! Theres ignorance and then theres stubborn stupidity , which are you sticky ??

I called you an idiot because you are. IF they sold a firearm that was just minus the magazine, it wouldn't be a parts kit. THAT would be a complete firearm!

It is idiocy to suggest that by simply buying a parts kit, you could assemble a full auto firearm. The folks at the ATF CAN read, and they monitor gun publications.

Since you say you read "Shotgun News", I'm sure you're familiar with Frank James. He does a regular column on revolvers. He also writes about his experiences hunting feral hogs. With AR platform rifles. He also speaks of carrying an AR platform rifle with him while working the grain fields of his farm before he quit raising grain, and leased out his land to neighbors who were still able to deal with a thousand acres.

Well I knew it had to be someone else because I knew it wasnt me !

maybe we can have a contest between us three. i will paint a shotgun shell i have here gold and it will be the trophy. out of the three of us that goes the longest on this thread without personal name-calling gets it.

munster...go back to page two a little further down and you will see that i was correct in that i posted about the 80% before stickhauler. he was responding to me.

Go to page 2 and it was sticky that started the 80% stuff ! And sticky just for your info , while i was going thru looking I counted where you called me an idiot 4 times ! Now whos doing all the name calling ! Typical Putz !! There I called you a name !Count it !

thank you for being honest munster.

No LTS, I was responding to someone 'I dont know who that said something about 80% !And no they almost never "throw away a part that was cut out unless they just started doing that !

when you said this.. "No again doofus , I never once said anything about any 80% so wrong again !" were you talking about another 80%?

Munster Probably with the 80% you might get one set here and another with different parts ! The people that do that work arent always on the same page ! So you might get a barrel on one and no magazine and just the opposite with another ! I know its screwy but I've seen it posted on chat rooms ! munster...you did...i just reposted your comment. you are correct about one point...and that someone else...namely i, originated the 80% with a resposted advertisement description.

That's a lie! If you look around, you'll find pictures on line of demilled military rifles, with the receiver cut in two (with a portion of it thrown away for scrap).

They didn't even fire up "Captain Crunch" to demill military surplus firearms until the Clinton administration. Until then, you could buy surplus M-Garands, M-1 Carbines and 1911 pistols deemed surplus straight from the DCM. They shipped, to your gundealer, in some cases straight to your home, from US Military Arsenals.

But keep telling us how expert you are in all things. You might convince yourself, the rest of us know you're just Freddie's little toady!

No again doofus , I never once said anything about any 80% so wrong again !That was one of you guys !!! And your hardened steel tubing is available hust about anywhere they sell steel ! And in the past there were many demilled "parts kits" that the only missing parts were the magazine ! So still the Know Nothing Expert !!

Which is is idiot? That I constantly post useless "blather", or that I keep quiet? It can't be both!

You THINK you were correct twice. You'd be wrong once again. The specific firearm you mentioned that could "easily be made with steel tubing" required a specific hardness standard steel tubing. Not something you're gonna pick up at ACE Hardware. Think steel suppliers, and they're gonna question what you need it for. And they don't sell it in 1 foot lengths!

You talked about "80%" kits? The receiver cover isn't completed on them, you'd still need to make specific bends in the metal, and drill for rivits and screws/bolts. And they don't come with blueprints or dimensions for the bends, or drill locations. And most I've seen come without a barrel. And, you'd have to get it shipped to a gun shop, and you get it transferred to you by the dealer.

So, don't break that shoulder patting yourself on the back! You're still as ignorant as ever!

Munster - Instead of a discussion of an AK-47 being an AK-47, why do you guys avoid the discussion of 1.7 - 1.8 MILLION rejections by the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, BUT ONLY 44 FOLLOW UP CRIMINAL PROSECUTIONS?

That equates to a .0024 percentage rate of trying to enforce a gun control law we already have. AND you think the creation of a couple of new laws WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE? I gotta a little swampland you might be interested in.