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5 days ago.
by Ohwiseone
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have Republican or Democratic Presidents done more to grow the economy?

What does the data tell us if we disaggregate GDP growth, changes in unemployment rate, and changes in the federal debt by sitting President's political party? Also - which party does a better job of helping the Poor and Middle Class (i.e. the VAST MAJORITY of the people in America and an eve greater proportion of the people living in this area?

 
 

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Ohwiseone

Also means he was 50% right ! And just what would you have us do ? Police countries that don't want us there ? All you're doing is giving them easy targets ! Isnt hindsight a marvelous thing ? It makes things easy to bit ch about without the risk of something going wrong ! How utterly republican ! We will now see just how well your republiduds will do now they have to finally do something ! The clock is ticking and in two years the gate may just swing the other way !

Posted 5 days ago.

Kunectdots

OMG!!!! That means Obama was supportive of one war that Bush started, Afghanistan, so that means Obama was 50% WRONG on 'wars started'.

Now, he's credited with effectively losing the other war, Iraq, and is proceeding toward losing the loss of Afghanistan as well. If he accomplishes that failure also, he will be chocked up in the 100% loss column for 'wars concluded'.

Posted 5 days ago.

Ohwiseone

GREEK !!! Two wars started on lies ! That's whats wrong ! Trillions wasted ! Deflect all you want but even the people who were in dubyas administration have admitted that they were LYING !

Posted 6 days ago.

Kunectdots

Nascar - So you're under the belief that occurrences including long-term developing ones, like national economic recessions, occur because of and during the time period of a sitting president?

I bet Ronald Reagan would have been surprised to have heard THAT ONE. LOL

Posted 6 days ago.

thegreek

Doesn't matter if wars start while in office, the republican president is at fault for the recession. Doesn't matter if economic woes beyond control happen while in office, the republican president is at fault for the recession. Doesn't matter if congress or senate is democratic controlled while in office, the republican president is at fault for the recession.. Little bit blaming and one sided there aint cha bud ??? Didn't see any of them republican president pushing FREE SOCIAL PROGRAMS did you??? Or desiring to let 5-10 million illegals into the country. Didn't see them giving billions to Iran to stop nuke developments while hey laughed their as$es of at him now did they.. Except maybe dip**** Jimmy Carter. The NOW 2ND WORSE PRESIDENT IN US HISTORY !!!

Posted 6 days ago.

NasCarNut

Kunect, I read that link a few days ago and it doesn't change the fact that -every Republican President since Calvin Coolidge in 1923 has presided over a recession that started WHILE he was sitting in office.

Posted 6 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Wait! Government did cause the housing bubble.

The Christian Science Moniter

Congress's Community Reinvestment Act, aimed at helping the poor afford housing, did lead banks to make much riskier mortgage loans, a new study finds.

Posted 6 days ago.

Ohwiseone

You mean the one that Obama kept us out of ? You know , the one that Dubya's failed economic policies caused ?

Posted 6 days ago.

Kunectdots

FYI (not sourced from Fox, BTW) "The History of Recessions in the United States"

h ttp://useconomy.about.c om/od/grossdomesticproduct/a/recession_histo.h tm

Posted 6 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Now nascar , you'll upset the greek and his chums by telling the truth ! They only like the "truth" that Faux feeds them ! They don't have time for facts !

Posted 6 days ago.

NasCarNut

Considering the GOP likes to label itself, "The Party Of Growth," guess what GOP, recession is the exact opposite of growth!!!

Posted 6 days ago.

NasCarNut

 every Republican President since Calvin Coolidge in 1923 has presided over a recession that started WHILE he was sitting in office.     That is more than ninety years of Republican presidents with an unbroken record of bringing recession to the nation's economy. 

Posted 6 days ago.

NasCarNut

Bush came into office saying "this downturn is nothing, wait to you see what I leave my successor."

Bam!!!

Posted 6 days ago.

NasCarNut

Bush was handed a surplus. In fact, the surplus was so large, he gave this reasoning for suggesting cutting the taxes to wealthy and reducing revenue:   

""This surplus is not the government's money," he said in a characteristic line yesterday in Council Bluffs, Iowa. "It's the people's money. And I believe we ought to listen to the people of America and share that money with the people who pay the bills."    G.W. Bush

Posted 6 days ago.

NasCarNut

 Bush doubled the debt on idealogical zealousness and bad decisions; Obama will double the debt to resolve a crisis and save the economy from a far worse fate. This is the story beyond the numbers.

Posted 6 days ago.

NasCarNut

This claim is easily checked by plugging Obama’s inauguration date — Jan. 20, 2009 — into the Treasury Department’s handy “debt to the penny” calculator. It shows that the nation’s total debt stood at $10.6 trillion on the day Obama took office, and it was at $16.2 trillion on Oct. 8. That means total debt has increased $5.6 trillion so far under Obama. That’s a huge increase in the national debt — more than 50 percent. But $5.6 trillion is nowhere near “almost as much” as the $10.6 trillion in debt amassed under the first 43 presidents.

Posted 6 days ago.

Ohwiseone

And it also states "And it’s also untrue — as claimed in a graphic widely circulated by email and in social media postings — that the debt has increased more under Obama than under all previous 43 presidents combined. In fact, as of Jan. 31, 2012, the rise under Obama had yet to surpass the rise under his predecessor, George W. Bush."

Posted 6 days ago.

thegreek

I guess Bush could have just let the terrorists go ahead and fly more planes into buildings in Los Angeles, Chicago and NYC like they planned and save a bunch of money. Would you have been happy with him then ???

Posted 6 days ago.

thegreek

HERE IS WHAT IT SAID --We won’t attempt here to assess which side is more to blame for the mounting debt, or how much of the increase is Obama’s fault. Washington Post columnist Ezra Klein argues that the economic stimulus and other Obama policies account for just under $1 trillion of the debt added since he took office, while Bush added $5.1 trillion in his eight years — mostly due to tax cuts and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. On the other hand, former Washington Post reporter Eric Pianin and others fault Obama for not getting more strongly behind the recommendations of his own deficit-reduction commission more than a year ago. Obama agreed to extend Bush’s tax cuts for two years

Posted 6 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Hey greek , try looking up who raised the debt the most these last 25 years "Ask FactCheck" , ~~~ FactCheck****

Dueling Debt Deceptions

Posted on February 2, 2012

Posted 7 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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