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2 days ago.
by Bigfoot
BeRight
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CLEAN... ENERGY

Offshore wind farms from New Jersey to Virginia took a big step closer to reality with the completion of a review that showed the renewable energy source would not cause major environmental damage, officials said today. Wind projects off the coasts of Maryland, Delaware, Virginia, and New Jersey are being studied. The Mid-Atlantic lease proposal follows the Cape Wind project in Massachusetts that was given the go-ahead in 2010 after 9 years of federal review."No developer should have to wait nine or 10 years," for approval, Salazar said. The response from the developers was "DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

 
 

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Posted 234 days ago.

thegreek

Sorry. analogy.

Posted 234 days ago.

thegreek

Thanks BeRight. 35 years in the electric industry will do that to a person. It is about as easy to understand if you think of it that way. The instructors use the same analagy.

Posted 234 days ago.

moderation

I was impressed by his analogy !!

Posted 234 days ago.

moderation

lts-I do remember you saying that you are rather fond of water system operations, my friend. (:

Posted 234 days ago.

BeRight

The Greek was making an analogy between moving water and electricity. It was a fine one at that.

Posted 234 days ago.

luvthesouth

good afternoon moderation. :-) we are transferring potable water from your elevated tanks to your faucets. it seems that thegreek is familiar with a common municipal water system. i simply expanded on their description of pressue at the faucet. using the constant you can calculate the pressure at your faucet or spigot from any elevated tank or resevoir. positive and negative pressure in relation to sizing a pump is another interesting topic.

Posted 234 days ago.

moderation

What are we transferring lts ?

Posted 234 days ago.

BeRight

Renewable energy projects accounted for nearly 50 percent of new capacity in the U.S. in 2012, according to a report released this week from Ernst & Young LLP. That includes a record 13,124 MW of wind power capacity and 3,313 MW of solar power capacity. ………………to your point Greek the report continues…………..The report also ranked California as the top state in the index for both all renewables and solar power, with Texas leading the states in the long-term wind power index.

I don’t think that will help the folks in Western Pa.

Posted 234 days ago.

luvthesouth

2.31' of water in a column = 1 psi positive head pressure.

Posted 235 days ago.

thegreek

Yes. Think of a power grid like a public water system. If you do not have enough head pressure in the storage tank pumped up there by the water pumps, you will not have very much pressure in the line as people start turning on spigots. You cannot push electricity very far on a power line due to the capacatance load on the wires. (think of it as friction) That is why you have to have power plants spaced pretty regularly on the grid. For that reason,a person cannot buy power from Calif. here in Ohio. In conclusion, there are not enough non-coal fueled power plants in service yet to support everyones electrical needs across the grid. As in the Affordable Care Act, the dictator in chief has gotten the cart ahead of the horse to make a name for himself at the expense of us citizens.

Posted 235 days ago.

BeRight

Let me try and help you understand. The tree hugger in chief is getting his way on killing coal so good for him. But he needs to step it up on getting the grid up to speed so the tree huggers can move clean generation power to area's where plants are closing. He needs to be a able to chew gum and walk at the same time. He has yet to prove he can do that.

Posted 235 days ago.

moderation

beright-You said"The plant closing program belongs to the treehugger in chief". It seems you have some confusion about what you say. But, I will try to keep up.

Posted 235 days ago.

BeRight

Mod: your six days late into this thread. This is a Grid conversation and what happens when you close dirty plants and try to move power from clean producers but have a week grid. See the post from six days ago. The grid is having a challenge in supporting the agenda. Long range goals and short sighted planning by the administration.

Posted 235 days ago.

BeRight

OK, that horse is dead. Good coversation, however. Thanks Bob.

Posted 235 days ago.

BobDahler

I should have said the FEDERAL Government's control.

Posted 235 days ago.

BobDahler

BeRight, I'll not argue about your opinion related to what you think the President thinks... However, if your suggestion is that the grid should be nationalized, I'm all for it.

But that is not the case in the here and now. Multiply 50 (the State regs.) by the number of providers involved in the transmission of electricity, and one comes up with a truly unmanageable cluster of problems... But hey, that's free enterprise, right? Point being: this situation is under the providers' control, not the Government, irrespective of who is in the office of President at any given time.

Posted 235 days ago.

moderation

Those coal burners have been dodging the axe for a coupla decades.do you think acid rain is a figment of someone's imagination, beright? How about the arsenic and mercury and lead released from burning coal?

Posted 236 days ago.

scrappile

Who is "investing" in this grid, the profit of the power companies, or do you want the govt. to do it, profit is not a bad word, but to anarcho-capitalist, 'business expenses", is right up there with blasphemery....

Posted 236 days ago.

BeRight

Having base load generation capacity is useless if the grid cannot support its movement. The current president, when a candidate, said in so many words, he was out to kill coal fired power generation. He is using the EPA to fulfill this promise. Because of these decisions, the grid is stressed. If the grid can’t support his goals, who’s problem is it again? The Power Companies sure don’t have the same plan as he does. The plant closing program belongs to the treehugger in chief. I think he should step up to the plate and fix the grid to support his plans.

Posted 236 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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